Should Liberals be called by their correct name - Comintern -Communist International

Lots of modern Republicans have abandoned economic conservatism in favor of fascism, which is the same as Nazi-ism. Those Republicans should not be called conservatives.

Social conservatism is just Talibanism for non economic issues.

 

Munzenberg's or the Comintern's goals are to create propaganda for the right-thinking non-communist West, (see OP) therefore moving conservatives towards the left is exactly the desired outcome. The correct term for those Republicans would be Innocents, or the Innocents club, due to their unknowing service to Communism.

 

Your first paragraph is true, your second is false.

 

There's a plethora of self-righteous, self-serving, self-deluded "conservative evangelicals" screaming for the 'freedumb' to put scarlet letters on those that worship or sin differently than them that make that statement patently untrue.

Here's one small example. I can produce a helluva lot more if you need further proof...

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/what-is-wrong-with-slut-shaming.566217/

 

@scarlet witch The word "liberal" for "leftists" is extremly confusing. In the rest of the world, "liberal" is more used for "economic liberalism", people who ask for less taxes, less regulations. Quite the opposite of the american liberals.

 

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!

Oh the IRONY coming from someone who started a thread based entirely on puerile derogatory name calling!

 

One should not call people what they are not. However, the bad habit of labelling Left-Wingers "Liberal" sure ought to die because there is very little in their beliefs that correspond with the values and ideals of Liberals.The same applies for "Conservative" - Americans sure have gotten a lot of things wrong.

Most Americans who etiquette themselves "Liberal" are either hardcore Commies or softcore Social Democrats.

Also, I have no idea who this man you call "father of Liberalism" is. That would be John Locke.

 

Im fine with it as long as we can start referring to righties as facist scumbags.

 

Suddenly you understand how borders work?

 

Ok so this post ^^^ is a classic Comintern post due to the use of smearing and derogatory name calling. The thread is about classification, something widely used in science and in every day life to create order and understanding of the world around us.

The thread raises the question whether Liberalism have been misclassified, due to it having the same goals and utilising textbook Soviet propaganda as Munzenberg, the original Comintern.

Their goals

Soviet or Communist propaganda is also characterised by its smearing and use of derogatory names.

Therefore should Liberals be called or classified as Cominterns, (due to goals and propaganda methods aligning) or perhaps Liberalsm have been hijacked by the Comintern and now serve Communism and not Liberalism, without the knowledge of the Liberal... which makes Liberals "innocents or The Innocents club as referred to by Munzenberg.

Other arguments/questions I think should be considered are;

Who (in the west) decided to close the book on the Comintern in 1943, the condition of Liberalism today raises serious questions about their competence or their allegiance.
How many Cominterns are out there? In other words how many are aware of what is going on and how many are merely innocents.

 

Should Liberals be called by their correct name - Comintern -Communist International
There is a wide range of "liberal" views just as there are for conservatives. Your question tries to lump them all into one extremist group on the far left, ignoring the many milder & kinder varieties of liberals that are ever present around you. Going to the extreme like this question does is inaccurate, unfair, opinionated in its presentation, & hostile to the very concept of democracy.

 

Ok so you just lumped them all into one category by referring to them as "milder kinder varieties" what are these separate liberals... or do you merely categorise them one "milder liberals varieties"

The correct term for these milder "unaware" liberals would be Innocents or The Innocents club. If you're not aware of this term you really need to read through the material in the OP. The Innocents are those unaware that they are being used by the Comintern for his/their end purposes.

Example. Racism and Climate change are used to destabilise governments, those milder liberals who support these although they do not partake in protests and disruptive behaviour are Innocents. It can therefore be argued that "Innocents" can potentially also be sub categorised into varieties

 

I think I should point out that the reasons I believe there should be a re-classification of Liberalism are;

1. Liberalism today is not what it started out as, the Comintern has hijacked and weaponised Liberalism
2. Liberalism hides the hidden agenda of the Comintern, by not acknowledging the goals and propaganda strategy overlap with the Soviet Comintern, the Communist agenda are not exposed

 

To me, the overall tone of your post is bleak, glum, distrusting, opinionated, & hostile. Too much of the world today is that way. Sorry you are a part of it. What I meant by my post saying liberals range thru a wide spectrum of ideas & beliefs. No, I wasn't lumping all them into one single group of "milder varieties." Extremists, regardless of their right/left orientation, all see the world in terms of extremes. They also see those in charge as conspirators. I don't. Whether or not an individual chooses to become an "activist" or pacifist politically, is a personal choice, based on individual circumstances, & harbors no inherent tendency toward the overthrow of governments thru innocent inactivity. I think you fit well within Trump's conspiratorial lunacy syndrome, but I'm not going there.

 

thank you for posting a Comintern post
referring to this goal

you just did

Moving on to the rest of your post, what you are doing is "SUB categorisation" therefore the issue remain whether the true character of Libearlism is Comintern and those oblivious Innocents, and if you want to delve further into the milder varieties you can do so by sub categorising them....

As I pointed out before, categorisation is something we use in Science and everyday life to bring order and understand to the world around us.... if you find this glum, distrusting and hostile... (add the other Comintern put downs) then your world must be very disorganised and difficult to comprehend.

 

You clearly have your own personal window on reality. Nothing I or anyone can say will alter that. And, you are entitled to it. I'll pass.

 

Except my reality is based on evidence posted in the OP, whereas you belittle and insult then stomp off and slam the door because you didn't get your way... all without a shred of evidence

 

Your reality is all categorized & compartmentalized & filled with conflict. I am familiar with your reality. I lived in it for decades. I escaped & no longer reside there, gratefully. You are welcome to it. You are welcome to my share of it. You can keep the battles going forever, but no one ever wins where you are. Just being there is a losing proposition. No more need be said.

 

You're off topic

 

Clearly you are spouting utter bushwa

You can share all this "information" that you either misinterpret or makeup out of whole cloth all you want. I'm not capable of "shutting you down" and wouldn't if I could. The more you John Birchers come on here and show people how truly ****ing silly rightism is becoming the closer we come to Trump being out of the White House and into the Big House.

 

PROVE IT, really people it's not that hard. I post a question, support with evidence and reasons why... you are welcome to argue against it, but unless you put supporting evidence down your comments are worth nothing.

 

Prove what? that Liberals are not "Cominterns"? All you do is equate the two with no evidence to support the same other than the fact that both liberalism and communism ostensibly support better lives for everyone. Admitting that communism beats being jabbed in the eye with a sharp stick doesn't make you a bomb-throwing Marxist.

 

Liberal has been hijacked it used to mean something very different.

A classical liberal has become a libertarian and liberal has become something else.

You can support gay marriage AND the Christian Baker people have forgotten this.

 

All I do is post supporting evidence on the alignment of the goals of Munzenburg the original Comintern and Liberals and the use of Soviet style propaganda by Liberals and their media.

Which is a heck of a lot more than what you have done.... which is nothing other than smearing and name calling... also btw a Comintern technique

 

Yes indeed Liberalism have moved from freedom and human rights to the suppression of free speech, the labelling of some humans as less than and the elevation of minorities as "better than" NOT EQUAL. The oppression of speech and labelling & smearing in particularly align with Communism (no free speech) and Soviet propaganda (smearing and labelling as lesser or evil if you don't align with the communists)