Should Mueller be removed as special counsel?

Again, the NSA has stated that they have no record of a large data flow emerging from the DNC and being transmitted over the internet.

The e-mails were captured by a DNC staffer and passed on to Wikileaks by the direct transfer of a flash drive.

The FBI never looked at the DNC server. All of the intelligence agencies are taking the word of Crowdstrike. The Crowdstrike report was paid for by the DNC.

Comey has been acting as a firewall for the unmaskers and leakers. Mueller really should recuse himself if he has even a shred of decency and ethical integrity.

 

Offering only two choices, and both extremes, is a shallow view of life and reality. Surely, you can do better.

 

Your mind is made up, so why confuse you with the facts? Anyhow, there are no liberal fantasies, unless it is a figment of your
imagination. Comey is an upstanding person, honorable, and indeed a patriot. He took this job for his country (yours and mine),
and has the respect of his peers. He was fired because he is loyal to us, and not just to Trump who wanted the investigation dropped.
What is Trump hiding? Why does he give Russia the benefit of the doubt? When is he going to start thinking about what is best for you and me, instead of himself? What would his tax returns show? As a lifelong Republican, I am embarrassed. Trump is not my kind of Republican. Try and be non partisan so that you can criticize your guy when he makes a mess.

 

Really? Mueller is non partisan and the pick of the litter where lawyers are concerned. He is well respected by Dems and Repubs alike.
If there is anything there, he will expose it. Why is Trump opposed to this? What is he afraid of? And why are you acting like Trump,
who has a questionable history, is an honorable person, when he is not.

 

Esperance;

Trump haters are hanging everything on this report from the combined intelligence community to attack a legitimately elected president. THERE IS NOTHING ELSE FOR THEM TO USE. So, let's look at Intelligence Reports in general.

If you read up on these reports, you will be disappointed in their accuracy. They are often wrong.The IC concluded that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction in 2003 which lead to the Iraq War--not a vote of their conclusions.

As a matter of fact, there are no absolutes in these reports.

In Washington DC, perception trumps (no pun intended) reality. This Intelligence report offers no actual proof of Russian involvement in the hacking of the DNC. It offers only PERCENTAGES of conclusions that that happened--something which politicians are selling as absolute proof. The report's conclusion that the motive was to see Trump win the White House is a long long stretch.

The Trump winning conclusion is based largely on RT (Russian Television) campaigning in favor of Trump. How many people in the US actually know what RT is?

I travel on business a lot and for some reason some hotel chains offer it on their in-room service. I have watched it for a few minutes. It is obviously biased in favor of the Kremlin. How effective could that be? Outside of a Holiday Inn, has anyone on this website seen it? It's estimated viewership is tiny.

How many blue collar workers in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Ohio... do you think gave up watching Dancing With The Stars to be brainwashed?

That the Russians hacked the DNC is not based on irrefutable evidence either.

The FBI was not allowed to look at the DNC server when the emails were discovered hacked and displayed on Wikileaks. The server was examined by a private security firm which took its pay from the DNC. There are other (unpaid) security firms which disagree with them.

Wordfence Security looked at the same findings. In brief, the report asserts the Russians used an old malware to hack the DNC. That is partially true. That malware has also been used by thousands of hackers around the world for years.

The paid report concludes the IP address used to extract emails could have originated in Russia--sure AND 40 other countries in that part of the world plus 600 other organisations unrelated to Russia.

These small facts have been ignored by the main stream hysteria (I mean media). They have also ignored the alternative theories and questions that been out there since the election. It was just a few weeks ago that someone hacking millions of computers in Europe and Asia to ransome their contect. No one has said for sure who did that, so how could anyone be positively sure of Russian hacking. The news also published a report of our Intelligence Agencies ability to launch malwares and make it look like they came from elsewhere. These stories are all being ignored because they do not fit the narrative laid out by the main stream hysteria (I mean media) to unseat a duly elected president. It is not his fault he won the White House, the Democrats really should look

Russian hacking of the DNC is an ASSUMED fact and not a PROVEN fack. Mueller's investigation should assume nothing. They should be go back to the very beginning of this investigation and expose it as the farce that it is.

Stories which refute the narrative

Russian Collusion is an Illusion.

 

Isn't that really the zionist plot to destablize america and ultimately gain control of the entire world? muuuuuuuuuhhhhhhaaaaaahahahahahah.

 

Loved the Dracula laugh. Do you do wolfman impersonations?

 

Mueller should NOT just investigate Trump's staff, but all of the DNC, Sanders and Clinton's staff, and every member of Congress, plus not just any connection to Russia of any kind, but any connection and any communication of any kind with anyone who is not an American regardless of which country.

 

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Mueller and his pals will milk this for years for all the hundreds of millions of dollars they can rake in.

 

Come on, its a political forum. People copy and paste stuff from their favorite biased rag. They don't read what they copy, they don't understand it, they likely won't defend it (other than deflections- oh look, that prediction came true)-

LOL, my god what some righties believe. Yeah, Comey is the criminal, not Trump, nothing to see here with so much evidence of his associations, witnesses, or his very own words. No, he did nothing wrong. Comey is the crook LOL

And concerned about conflicts, but not at all concerned about the entire Trump administration that is rife with conflicts

 

Mueller and Comey are friends?

Yes, but friendship only goes so far. I would not fall on my sword for a friend who has proven to be an admitted coward, weakling and leaker, who would make a claim up to a point and then retreat from actually saying, who would say one thing and then the opposite in the same breath, who would throw everyone under the bus so he can look like a boy scout.

Lordy, what kind of a friend is that to have? I would sooner wipe him off the bottom of my shoe.

 

Comey is a fraud, should have been fired by Obama or had the good graces to resign after the whole Clinton cover-up. He's a pathetic leaker and liar, everything he has done has been for his benefit, not the country, not the FBI, but for Comey. He is the very worst that 'serve' this country, a self-serving jackass willing to break laws to protect himself all the while saying its for 'our benefit'...

 

I care about conservative principles being enacted. Trump's shenanigans are getting in the way of business at the White House. If Trump could have just shut up, Mueller would never have been appointed special counsel. Sessions and Rosenstein had everything set up so Trump would have a good reason to fire Comey. Instead of just firing him (which was a good thing) and going on, Trump had to make it his total choice instead of having it done by Sessions and Rosenstein. It would now be a non-story if he could just shut up. Campaigning and being President are two different things. Obama campaigned throughout his Presidency, and look how pathetic that was.

 

Of Course, of course. Why didn't I think of that. And Mueller? He must also be a fraud, his credentials notwithstanding, yes?

 

The Russia witch hunt should end and Mueller can go back to doing whatever he does. There is no need for him. This was all about getting a gotcha moment out of someone, it didn't happen and now we see this story dwindling away, yet the idiotic 'investigation' will drag on and on. Time to move on...

 

The Russian Collusion
Is an Illusion
Made be brats
called Democrats
Who play a game
of blame and frame
in other words
excusin' the losin'

 

It is a matter of opinion whether it happened, and it is hardly an idiotic investigation. We will find out with this highly competent lawyer
doing the dirty. It is important for our democracy and national security that we follow through.

 

if Mueller is fired, Congress will re-hire him

 

Ronstar;

"if Mueller is fired, Congress will re-hire him."

Congress is controlled by the Republicans, so if he were fired it is not likely they would buck the president.

That is hypothetical.

Mueller is pretty honest. My guess is he will follow the facts and the facts will lead him to the same conclusion as members of Congress like Nancy Pelosi who admitted on television that there was no evidence of a Russian collusion.

Trump is not going to fire him unless he commits an egregious act and everyone agrees like catching him in bed with Comey.

 

Mueller acted as Comey's attorney and advisor before Comey testified and therefore is disqualified. Regardless, having the former head of the FBI investigate his own agency and his own programs is truly absurd.

 

he is not disqualified.

on the contrary, his investigation continues to gain steam.

 

It was assumed that Mueller coached Comey on his testimony. An unusual thing to do, but this is an unusual situation where a former head of the FBI is basically taking over an investigation in which another director was an integral part. If nothing else, the two would have to decide what was confidential and what was not.

In his testimony, Comey laid out certain unknown details like the incorrect 2/14 NYT story that started this farce, Lynch's pressure, Trump not being under investigation and most importantly his own leaking to the NYT. I don't think he revealed these things out of the goodness of his heart.

I think Mueller told him to come clean with these things on his own, otherwise Mueller would have been obligated to do so. The chips would have fallen much harder for Comey as result.

 

He is investigating his own agency? Since when?

 

The problem is he won't and he can't since he would be investigating his own programs. Wikileaks documents made it clear that the FBI, CIA and NSA have software for hacking and to specifically make it look like Russian hacking. It is no secret those agencies have gone beyond law in spying on politicians, officials, and Americans.

When investigating "hacking" then ALL possible sources of hacking should be investigated. By making former longtime FBI Director Mueller in charge, it assures that the FBI, CIA and NSA are exempt from the investigation. Mueller will not and cannot ever even explore if any hacking was done under programmed created by him or when he was in charge, can he?

 

His investigation is a distraction.