Should Muslims convert or?

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by Canell, Dec 27, 2018.

?

Should Muslims convert to other belief systems?

  1. Yes, to Christianity

    6 vote(s)
    14.3%
  2. Yes, to Buddism

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Yes, to Hinduism

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Yes, to Judaism

    1 vote(s)
    2.4%
  5. Yes, to Confucianism

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Yes, other religion

    1 vote(s)
    2.4%
  7. Yes, to science / atheism

    6 vote(s)
    14.3%
  8. Anything but Islam!

    3 vote(s)
    7.1%
  9. No, they are fine

    9 vote(s)
    21.4%
  10. No, you just can't force them out of Islam

    7 vote(s)
    16.7%
  11. No, it is you that should convert to Islam, infidel!!

    3 vote(s)
    7.1%
  12. Other

    6 vote(s)
    14.3%
  1. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2018
    Messages:
    9,808
    Likes Received:
    2,351
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I get a kick out of when people bring up the 2 or 3 verses in all the 4 books of Jesus teachings.
    2 or 3 verses nobody knows who wrote.
    2 or 3 verses that go completely against the 4 books of verses and teachings,

    And try to compare that with Muhammed.
    Who has hundreds of verses of rob, rape, and kill.
    Who has an entire storyline, written by several authors confirming each other.
    Volumes written about his exploits, that all fit together.

    You have to cherry pick from a few verses to find something nice about him.

    The exact opposite.
     
    jay runner likes this.
  2. Canell

    Canell Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2011
    Messages:
    4,295
    Likes Received:
    1,828
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
     
  3. rahl

    rahl Banned

    Joined:
    May 31, 2010
    Messages:
    62,508
    Likes Received:
    7,651
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I've proven this false with you, several times. Jesus specifically told you he's not abolishing the old law.
    the muslim holy book is no more violent than the jewish or chirstian holy book. They are all 3 based on the same god of Abraham.
     
  4. rahl

    rahl Banned

    Joined:
    May 31, 2010
    Messages:
    62,508
    Likes Received:
    7,651
    Trophy Points:
    113
    but that's really stupid, since all 3 religions are violent and call for murder. You have an irrational fear of muslims for some reason. I'm guessing it's the way you were raised. Or, a muslim touched your special place when you were a kid or something. There's no other explanation for your irrational hatred
     
  5. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2018
    Messages:
    9,808
    Likes Received:
    2,351
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So you are proven wrong with abolishing the old laws.
    And the God of Abraham is BS. because it changes everytime a new religion picks it up.
    Do you think the Jews worship a god who wants them dead.

    You say the muslim book is no more violent than the Christian book.
    BULLSH-T.
    Show me the violence in the Christian book.
    The book of Ishaq is 600 pages of fine print. Robbery, rape and murder.
    The History of Al Taburi is 40 volumes, of rob. rape. and kill.
    Bukhari, and Muslim confirm much.
    Even some shows up in the Qur'an.
    Graphic descriptions of torture and murder.

    Jesus did none of that.
     
    jay runner likes this.
  6. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2018
    Messages:
    9,808
    Likes Received:
    2,351
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That is really, really, really, fu-king stupid..
    Try reading the books.


    And BTW.
    The Jewish books are descriptive.
    The Muslim books are prescriptive.
     
    Last edited: Jan 26, 2019
  7. jay runner

    jay runner Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2017
    Messages:
    16,319
    Likes Received:
    10,027
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Better yet analyze who is doing what in this last decade like Bill Maher did.
     
  8. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2018
    Messages:
    9,808
    Likes Received:
    2,351
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That's true.

    The Jewish books are pretty sicko, of sex and murder. But the Jews evolved from it.
    The Christian books clean it up quite a bit.
    The Muslim books define murder, torture, rape, thievery, and order it done today.
     
    Last edited: Jan 26, 2019
    jay runner likes this.
  9. rahl

    rahl Banned

    Joined:
    May 31, 2010
    Messages:
    62,508
    Likes Received:
    7,651
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I proved you wrong that they were abolished.
    all 3 religions worship the same god of Abraham. They just took what was made up, and made up some more ****.
    .repeatedly shown you
    the bible has numerous stories of GOD instructing his followers to murder and rape.
     
  10. rahl

    rahl Banned

    Joined:
    May 31, 2010
    Messages:
    62,508
    Likes Received:
    7,651
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I have. They've all been quoted for you, which shows your position is irrational, and incorrect.


    no they aren't.
     
  11. Canell

    Canell Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2011
    Messages:
    4,295
    Likes Received:
    1,828
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    That's total BS.
    See what Christianity did with the so called "pagan" people>



    What has Islam given to the world, except the rivers of blood and tears? Where are the cathedrals, the music, the literature, the paintings, the fine buildings?
     
  12. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2018
    Messages:
    9,808
    Likes Received:
    2,351
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Prove to me a Christian branch that uses the 613 laws of Moses.
    Just saying it is not proof.
    You are trying to invent a new religion.

    And the Christian bible, The New Covenant does not have numerous stories of GOD instructing his followers to murder and rape.
    Please show me these.
     
    Last edited: Jan 26, 2019
  13. jay runner

    jay runner Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2017
    Messages:
    16,319
    Likes Received:
    10,027
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    There's no Christians beheading people, no Christians burning people in cages, no Christians burning hands off with torches, no Christians throwing homosexuals off buildings to their deaths, no Christians stoning women to death. That's the recent track record of Muslims.
     
  14. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2018
    Messages:
    9,808
    Likes Received:
    2,351
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You claim you have read the books, that's bullsh-t.
    And I can prove that.
    Do you want me too.
     
  15. rahl

    rahl Banned

    Joined:
    May 31, 2010
    Messages:
    62,508
    Likes Received:
    7,651
    Trophy Points:
    113
    no idea what this rant has to do with the fact that Christianity and Judaism is just if not more violent than islam.
     
  16. rahl

    rahl Banned

    Joined:
    May 31, 2010
    Messages:
    62,508
    Likes Received:
    7,651
    Trophy Points:
    113
    why? I didn't claim anyone USED them. I correctly showed you jesus specifically told you he wasn't abolishing the old laws.
    no, I'm schooling you on biblical fact.
    the Christian bible includes the old testamanet. Jesus specifically told you he isn't abolishing the old laws.

    your irrational fear and hatred of muslims will not change either of those facts.
     
  17. rahl

    rahl Banned

    Joined:
    May 31, 2010
    Messages:
    62,508
    Likes Received:
    7,651
    Trophy Points:
    113
    today? maybe not. But it wasn't all that long ago they were.

    correction. That's a tiny miniscule percent of the muslim population. The overwhelming VAST majority (billions) of muslims do not, nor do they advocate for such.
     
  18. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2018
    Messages:
    9,808
    Likes Received:
    2,351
    Trophy Points:
    113

    This is an example of how our Muslim here is trying to manipulate the writings.

    The jews stoned people as a death sentence.

    Along comes Jesus and the New Covenant.

    Jesus said, Let he who has not sinned, cast the first stone.
    Nobody threw one.
    Jesus told the woman to "go, and sin no more"
     
    Last edited: Jan 26, 2019
    jay runner likes this.
  19. rahl

    rahl Banned

    Joined:
    May 31, 2010
    Messages:
    62,508
    Likes Received:
    7,651
    Trophy Points:
    113
    no, you can't. and don't edit my posts to remove context. it changes the meaning of my post, and is against forum rules.

    that's your one and only warning.
     
  20. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2018
    Messages:
    9,808
    Likes Received:
    2,351
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The ten commandments.
    I asked you to show me a Christian sect that uses the 613 laws of Moses,
    Are you having trouble finding one.
     
  21. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2018
    Messages:
    9,808
    Likes Received:
    2,351
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Of course I can prove it.
    how about I ask you questions that are plainly printed.
    I doubt you can answer any of them.
     
  22. rahl

    rahl Banned

    Joined:
    May 31, 2010
    Messages:
    62,508
    Likes Received:
    7,651
    Trophy Points:
    113
    jewish law
    and I asked you why? I didn't claim any did. I just correctly pointed out that jesus told you he didn't abolish the old laws.
    I have no obligation to prove arguments you make up and attribute to me. That's called a strawman.
     
  23. rahl

    rahl Banned

    Joined:
    May 31, 2010
    Messages:
    62,508
    Likes Received:
    7,651
    Trophy Points:
    113
    fire away. Give me chapter and verse of whatever passage you have questions about.
     
  24. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2018
    Messages:
    9,808
    Likes Received:
    2,351
    Trophy Points:
    113
    and I pointed out that nobody knows who wrote that, and it is not used in any Christian church.
    The ten commandments are accepted, not the Laws of Moses.

    And look at your argument, over 1 or 2 verses in 4 books.

    I can post hundreds of verses about Muhammed, that all fit into the existing storyline.
    I don't have to harp on one controversial one.
     
  25. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2018
    Messages:
    9,808
    Likes Received:
    2,351
    Trophy Points:
    113
    (1) How was it decided that Muhammed was speaking to God in the caves and not the devil.


    (2) What event inspired the distinction of the right and left hand.
     
    Last edited: Jan 26, 2019

Share This Page