Should our intake of migrants change, and if yes to what extent?

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  1. m2catter

    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    You're obviously an idealist, but the evidence generally speaking is that it doesn't work; it might be all hunky-dory at first but it won't last.

    Well,
    it is you who stated the above, so it appears that you have plenty of experience to come to such an conclusion. Please explain....
    Regards
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's merely a comment on the human condition; humans will always gravitate to, and have allegiance toward, groups most like themselves. I expect you would too; it's the 'family thing' at work. Or maybe tribal thing at work is a better explanation. We're tribal by instinct.
     
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  3. m2catter

    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    Hmmm,
    why not give those, unknown to you, a fair chance? You might be quite surprised....
    With all the headbanging on the news and the papers about the unknown dark skinned (often Muslim of course) foreigners, those raping our women and slaughtering our children ----------- I regard it as extremely dangerous and would hope that people come to their own senses....
    Cats
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Those who are 'unknown to me' - and to you - have declared war on us, so why on earth would I give them a fair chance when they would like to kill me? Where exactly do you live?
     
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  5. m2catter

    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    Pardon?
    what are you talking about? I am not talking about ISIS, but migrants from different backgrounds.
    Oh boy, I can sense we are certainly not on the same page. I honestly feel sorry for you...
    Reg.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Okay you feel sorry for me if it makes you happy.
     
  7. m2catter

    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    Mate,
    we have people with very similar views on our Aussie forum, people who never met a single Muslim, but hate their guts.
    Sorry, I just can't deal with that. We have to leave it there.
    All the best,
    Cats
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'd like to discuss it with you but I have to leave the forum now. But there are a couple of things I'd like to raise with you because your POV interests me. Hasta manana.
     
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    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    no probs,
    send me a private mail and let us see whether we find some common ground....
    Cats
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    I never met a KKK member, but I hate their guts, just because of the group they belong to.
    Same applies to Nazis.
     
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    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    So you rate ordinary Muslim and KKK members or Nazis the same? Please think again.....
    Reg.
     
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    Reducing intake based upon practical bases is in no means hypocritical. Additionally, raising questions on areas that others are likely to bring up does not say which side he would fall on.
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    Just the ones in free countries where they have a choice to be in the cult.
     
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    crank Well-Known Member

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    I'm not interested in your passport (or your skin tone). I'm interested in your willingness to NOT BURDEN THE TAXPAYER, and your preparedness to live in the 21stC, in THIS country and THIS culture. I don't really care about your gods either, as long as yours doesn't tell you that women should be stoned to death for looking at you funny.

    I live amongst white and not-white. Migrants, indigenous, and honky citizens of many generations standing. I see good and bad in all three groups.
     
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    You speak as someone who thinks non-white people are necessarily saintly. What a bloody condemnation.
     
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    You think that's bad .. I know Progressives who've never spent a full day with a Conservative, yet hate their guts. And Conservatives aren't throwing gays off buildings or stoning their daughters.
     
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    we should be generating revenue from border policy.
     
  18. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'll keep to the forum because I've unexpectedly had an invitation to take up a cancelled outpatient appointment for an elective procedure later this morning, and don't want to get into how to use the PM facility. So here goes:

    Just supposing you and your family were forced to house-share for an indeterminate period of time? Guessing that you're an Australian, and that you could choose the ethnicity/nationality of your host, would you rather live with another Australian family, or say, an African family who insist that you daughter should be subjected to FGM, and there were regular visits by a spiritual healer to remove evil spirits from one of their children; or a Muslim family for example, who imposed their rules on your family, including the 5 times a day call-to-prayer in the local mosque, the demand that you should study the Koran, eat their food, and they kept trying to prosethlyze you to their faith? Personally, I'd choose to share with an English or otherwise westernized family, but that doesn't mean that I hate Africans or Muslims. [​IMG]

    Actually there's a corollary scenario: If you moved to another country, would you seek out an Australian, or even a white, community, or just settle in anywhere within the indigenous populace?
     
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  19. m2catter

    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    Oh,
    and you witnessed that in my beloved country?
    Or most likely read on some rightish populist forum, or even more so on some extreme rightish news channel?
    Reg.
     
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    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    Mate,
    that is exactly the situation, so many of you guys painting this extreme dark picture of anything other than true blue. I have to give it up, what a waste of time. I offered you a sincere exchange of thoughts, but you chose to chicken out. Fine with me, end of story.....
    Reg.
     
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    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    That is the best bit you wrote in quite some time, we are all human beings, treat us as such, we all might prosper.....
    Reg.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is what liberals always do when asked 'awkward' questions - instead of answering them they hurl an insult then run away. No wonder you wanted to discuss it by private message - the forum is too public for you isn't it.
     
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    Some have and some haven't. This is why we need limits on immigration, a process to weed out the convicts, and a border.

    Thank God for the Indian and Pacific Oceans.
     
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    When global warming floods low lying nations such as Bangladesh etc millions will take to the sea. The vastness of the Indian & Pacific Oceans won’t prevent hundreds of thousands landing on our shores and there’s no way we could put together a navy large enough to turn them all back.
    You ain’t seen nothin yet.
     
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    Why take in problem cases from the globe into your island/continent nation?

    Why import Muslim fundamentalism as :flagus: & Europe has?
    Why import a race problem.
    Why import instant welfare cases.

    Suggest Latin America to those knocking on your door.

    Australia for Australians
    Australia FIRST.
    And stop selling your resources to ferigners.
     

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