Should police officers be held responsible for poor judgement when a shooting occours?

And that private, exhausted and in a chaotic, life or death situation should be held to a different standard than the average joe civilian, we must have empathy with them and always ask ourselves what we would have done in the same situation? Police are no different.

 

Absolutely, why do so many dumbos not understand that and end up getting shot and whining endlessly about it?

 

~ Yes all good points. However the job entails too much responsibility and authority to change my mind. A young person can start the academy at age 29 - work 30 years and retire at age 60 and still continue with other employment. I also think the police reserves are a good example of my suggestion as this group are older and have employment non-police related. They seem to seldom have use-of-force/behavior issues. They are not "indoctrinated" into the police authority group think that can cause problems.

 

Because by the time you find out whether it is a harmless object or deadly firearm it is too late? The quick and the dead...

 

Again, remember most violent crime is committed by young men, can you imagine a 60 year old officer chasing down a 16 year old?

 

~ You very well could be correct. However we hear about the shootings that do occur more often on news media - almost as soon as it happens.

 

They have rules of engagement and the public is also protected by laws and regulations, it's kinda situational I suppose,

 

Which has absolutely nothing to do with concealed carry.

 

I voted "Yes" but the answer really should be "depends". Each situation would need to be looked at separately. Police officers are given a lot of official power, including the ability to use force that may end a life on a moment's notice at their own discretion. With that power should be great responsibility and great supervision.

 

Where is the evidence the individuals were legal firearm owners to begin with? Where is the evidence the individuals in question had concealed carry permits?

 

Bullshit again. This Illustrates very well the common-sense maxim that a man who carries a gun is willing to use it. They may say it''s only for self-defense but anyone who is attacked in any way is defending themself and it doesn't matter to them if they started the fight or not. Gunnies are willing to defend their "rights" at the drop of a hat and are quite careless of the rights of others and that is a dangerous and deadly combination

How do you feel about the cops who fired through a window, at people they saw inside. Do you think that any concealed carrier has the right to shoot them too?

 

Such is the same so-called "reasoning" and "logic" that leads individuals to being incapable of discerning the difference from legal hunting and illegal poaching.

 

Sorry, it’s not a tough call not to shoot a person in their own home, through their window, when you haven’t identified yourself, less than a second after telling them to put their hands up.

 

Many people are still held accountable for accidental deaths. Police should be as well IMO.

 

Yes but police officers should be held to a different standard, they are in situations other people do not encounter and should always be given the benefit of the doubt.

 

When did this happen? Got a link?

 

What's wrong with that? If the people were a threat to life then totally justified.

 

October 12, 2019. Here’s a link.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Atatiana_Jefferson

“Body camera footage that had been heavily edited [12] and then released by the Fort Worth Police Department shows that two officers had walked quietly around the side of the home.[13] Officer Aaron Dean had walked into Jefferson's backyard.[14] Seeing Jefferson in the window of her home, the officer yelled "put your hands up! Show me your hands!" and then fired a single shot through Jefferson's window.[1][14]

Describing the video, the BBC wrote that Dean fired "within seconds" of seeing Jefferson.[4] The BBC also wrote that the footage does not appear to show police identifying themselves or whether she was armed.[4] The footage also does not show any indication if Dean could see the gun that Jefferson held, as the view through the window was obstructed by the reflection from his flashlight. The officer partnered with Dean told authorities that she could only see Jefferson's face through the window.”

The officer has since been indicted for murder. Rightfully so in my opinion.

 

Sadly, most Cops are Trigger Happy.
And they are counting on the Local Prosecutor to take their side and decide not to charge them.

And, in 99% of cases, the Local DA takes the cop's side.

That is why it is so surprising when a Cop is actually charged with Rape or Murder.

Even less than 1% (of cops facing justice for their daily crime sprees against public decency, based on the power trip that a gun and a badge can give someone with a GED) is better than nothing.

It is good to see cops actually facing charges.

 

Never heard of it, but if it does exist it's a step in the correct direction, too many "community leaders" are trying to force LEO's into hesitating, which is getting some of them killed.

Do you have any links to the memo?

Based on the body worn camera videos I have seen of such shootings the person who was shot quickly reached for something while being held at gunpoint, which is a dumb thing to do, maybe a little training of the general public of what not to do when being held at gunpoint is in order.

 

Once again you are demonstrating you know little about those who carry guns, of those who carry it's only a microscopic number of them who are willing to use a gun unless they are pushed into a situation where they must use one.

Totally incorrect and a false assumption on your part, and an non-provable assumption at that.

You are mixing fact with fiction, maybe try again without asking a leading question.

 

Quite incorrect, the majority of LEO's want nothing to do with shooting their guns, and some have died as a result of that hesitation to defend themselves.

That's a flat out lie.

Ok, then you need help call 411 and get the number of the local labor pool and have them send someone by to help you out.

But don't call 911 because people like you don't deserve their protection.

 

What link did you read? The officers were in uniform, they yelled a warning, sounds like this poor lady was startled and turned towards them with her gun, doesn't matter if his oppo didn't see it if he did. Seconds is all it takes. Can't believe the poor guy was charged with murder, at most this is manslaughter, hopefully he will get no jail time.

 

What on EARTH are you talking about? Police shoot fewer people than ever, most never fire a shot in anger in their lifetime. DA takes their side because they are almost always completely justified. What daily crime sprees? What on earth are you talking about? It's so sad to see this officer prosecuted for this tragic accident but hopefully he'll get off.

Let me guess, you never served in the police or military or risked your life for others in any way possible? The hypocrisy of those who seek to criticize those who protect them yet are the first to squeal for help when they're in trouble never fails to appal me.

 

If I unintentionally step on the accelerator instead of the brake pedal and I hit a pedestrian at a cross-walk ..... should I be held accountable for his death? Duh.