Should Puerto Rico be allowed Statehood?

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Will Puerto Rico be the 51st State?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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    54.2%
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    Nah, they still view Benedict Arnold as a hero there. Puerto Ricans fought for the Revolution during his time.
     
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    Puerto Ricans fought in the revolution?
     
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    Yup. Google Bernardo De Galvéz whose heroism won Florida which enabled the Carolina campaign victory. Some of his troops were Puerto Rican volunteers who later marched with him throughout the South and into Texas.
     
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    ...and he was Spanish, helping the revolution on behalf of King Charles III. Not sure what that has to do with Puerto Rico. That's like saying Haiti should be a state because France helped.

    Actually, I'm not sure what any of this has to do with Puerto Rican Statehood. Hesse doesn't get to be a state because some mercs flipped to the Revolutionary side.
     
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    He was Spanish and had you taken your history lessons you would know that country was an ally of the Revolution. The PRs were volunteers who fought on the side of loyalists who drifted southward along with ex-slaves who took refuge in Florida (Spanish law forbids slavery). All the more reason why PR and Canada would not be a suitable mix.
     
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    Yes. I said, "...and he was Spanish."

    I'm just not clear what any of this has to do with statehood.
     
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    Excellent point that most of us pathetically-IGNORANT Americans miss completely. Crimea became part of Russia in 1783!

    At a time when BOTH Ukraine and Russia were together in the Soviet Union, Russia ceded the portion called Crimea in an administrative transfer to its 'brother-country' in 1954.

    In 2014, a coup against the legal government of Ukraine caused its president to flee for his life and established a rogue government in his place. Shortly afterward, Russian President Putin took back Crimea, mostly to protect this vitally strategic home of the Russian Black Sea Naval Fleet (Russia had always kept this naval fleet headquartered there, even after the 1954 'transfer'). Russia also said that it did this to protect the Russian ethnic minority who were being attacked and killed by the coup-led military in Kiev.

    Puerto Rico? Don't we have enough trouble and horrific expense deaing with 'shithole countries' as it is?! We don't need to be importing them into the United States!

    *** It's easier to teach algebra to a MULE than it is to teach a 21st-century American anything about accurate, truthful world history. ***


    [​IMG]. "And I don't spend all day farting around on a 'smart phone'...." :graduate:
     
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    read up a few posts and you will see that someone else said (as a joke) that PR should join up with Canada
     
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    to late - they're already here and here to stay



    [​IMG].
     
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    Unfortunately, yer right. Best now to keep them at 'arm's length' as much a we can....
     
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    jus' remember that the governor is a republican so you'd want him on your side ;)
     
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    No way do I want Puerto Rico to be a state. I wish we could just give the damn thing back to Spain but the Spanish wouldn't take it. It would be nothing but a liberal shithole state instead of just being a liberal shithole territory. The national toilet is full, we don't need any more **** in it.
     
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    Better to keep them a shithole territory than ever make them a shithole STATE. We've already got plenty of those, too. Puerto Rico is another one of these hyperliberal "black holes" in the economy. If it ever becomes a STATE, then they'll be able to put even more liberals in the House and Senate, and vote for president. It would be another Blue-State industrial vacuum cleaner for the ongoing Democrat Welfare Circus. We need that like we need the bubonic plague -- especially today!
     
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    'Allowed' Statehood?
    Allowed!?
    That word 'allowed' is rather insulting to the people of PR.

    Americans are so rude.
     
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    Puerto Ricans are US citizens, are they not?
     
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    Reading this thread; No wonder the world doesn't like Americans.
     
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    When you say our, you forget these PR people are Americans.

    You should learn to live with it, and accept it, not cut them out because you're well off (rich) and they're not (they're poor).
     
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    They seem to have a multiplicity of 'citizenships': https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Rican_citizenship

    They are citizens of their own Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, they are still considered to be citizens of Spain (!), and, they are citizens of the United States in keeping with the island's status as a "territory".

    A hundred years ago, PR was a great place to grow sugar cane and make rum. Today? It's nothing but a corrupt, economic "black hole" in constant need of massive amounts of handout welfare of all kinds, from guess who...? Hint: go look in the mirror!

    We should give it back to Spain, since Puerto Ricans are, after all, Spanish citizens....
     
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    Does this mean they're EU citizens too?
     
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    Allowed is correct. It's a GD privilege.
     
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    Like being British is for Gibraltar.
     
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    The reference included in that link is a bit misleading ~ PR's are not Spanish citizens but may acquire it by application where their petitions would be prioritized unlike those applicants who come from other countries. A few years ago, Spain changed its law to allow certain people who consider themselves overseas Iberians to apply for Spanish citizenship. PRs are among these.

    Many Americans refer to people from Latin-America as "Hispanics". That term is incorrect as Hispanic is only a reference to people of spain. This because under the ancient Roman empire, Spain was called Hispania. But most of Latin America fought a revolution to be free of Spain. Puerto Rico did not. It remained loyal to Spain. This despite the fact that many of its people were exiled from Spain because they were descended of Marranos [Jews], Moriscos [Muslims], or Gitanos [Gypsies]. Once the USA annexed PR through its imperialist war with Spain, many (but not all) islanders switched their allegiance.

    By the way, once a person becomes a citizen of Spain, they also become citizens of the EU.
     
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    Puerto Rico has little in common with the rest of America.
     
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    That would be nice.

    So much better than all those southern states which tie the noose around their necks by voting Republican. ;)
     

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