Six far-right suspects held over possible attack on Macron

Yes, they were part of the indigenat, there were the distinction between the french citizens and the french nationals. Anwyay, algerian indenpendance removed them any right to claim to french nationality or citizenship, except for the harkis.

Because between 1981 and 1994, it was what ? Furthermore, the factit was a centrist which started this doesn't mean anything. Being pro abortion for instance was a leftist position, position VG d'Estaing had. Who among citizens defend mass migration. Right winged citizens ? No. Left-winged citizens. Mass imigration was always defended by leftist not right winged people. You're just nitpicking.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigénat
The first Code de l'indigénat was implemented by the Algerian senatus consulte of 14 July 1865, under Napoleon III, which changed the situation by allowing Algerian Jews and Muslims full citizenship on request. Its first article stipulated that

"The Muslim indigenous is French; however, he will continue to be subjected to Muslim law. He may be admitted to serve in the terrestrial and marine Army. He may be called to functions and civil employment in Algeria. He may, on his demand, be admitted to enjoy the rights of a French citizen; in this case, he is subjected to the political and civil laws of France."

And a country can not remove the citizenship of it's own people. And again... them people voted. It's retarded that you claim they were not a citizen when they have the right to vote. You're not commenting on it entirely, and so you are defaulting to my argument.

http://hrlibrary.umn.edu/instree/b1udhr.htm
You also got:
Article 15
1. Everyone has the right to a nationality.
2. No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his nationality nor denied the right to change his nationality.

France is simply not able to deprive the citizenship of millions of it's own people. It's not like if they were people from an other country. And it has been like that since 1948. So you're just wrong. period.

It wasn't 1970 when the immigrants came under right wing policies.
You lied when you claim they were left wing. Period.

 

Yes, full citizenship which needed you to stop being muslim and even it was the theory.

Use google trad.
In 1962, only 10 000 muslims had french citizenship. And it doesn't change a fact, if a part of a country want to make secession, they all lost their former nationality. Such was the case for instance for inhabitants of Ireland, Irish people which were british citizens became irish citizens. Except the northern part.

I said it was a result of left wing policy, not that the first came under a left wing government. The first migrants sarted to come under a center-right government which took a lot of leftists decisons, the one of V.Giscard d'Estaing. But it lasted for decades I said it was results of left wing policy, and it's result of leftist mentality. The massive migration that knew and know France is the result of a lot of decision taken between 70 to today. They could have stopped it in the 80's, but they didn't.
On a point, you're right, and I already mentionned it, the french people were betrayed by a lot of their politician, as much right winged than left winged, effectivly, some people like D'Estaing and Chirac collaborated fully to the destruction of France through mass migration.
But among the citizen, it's leftists which defend this abomination that is multiculturalism.

Macron which is reputed center, is too full of leftist ideology when he declared that "french culture doesn't exist".

 

You're not able to deny their right to vote. And you're not able to deny international law that that you can not arbitrarily deprived of his nationality I posted. Just dumb to think being of a specific religion is not arbitrarily depriving anybody. Just dumb.

You're just making up these were lift wing policies by right wing governments to whine out of your lies.
These were right wing policies for a full decade, before a left wing government took over.
You're not able to deny this.

 

That's how it was, "indigenes" didn't had the right to vote. Anyway, they're not anymore part of this snation.

Not really, allowing abortion is not a right wing policy. You might be confused because all France is a leftist country and so most so called right winged people are leftists for most countries standart. You're not able to deny that's all the multiculturalist thing is the toy of the left. Who defend mass migration among regular people, leftists or right winger ?

And furthermore, I never denied that traitors to the nations of all kind is not something we miss in France, apparently bad habits tend to not die.
I never pretended that only leftists government made massive migration, just that it is the left which defend this, and so advocate for the death of France. Rigth winged politicians are not that much different, all they do is running after money, they could sell France if they would get a good price of it. We just had to see how Sarkozy was running after his qatari masters.

All of that started to go wrong with the revolution.

 

They voted. I guess I have to source that it's true to stop you from going forth with all these lies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_legislative_election,_1951_(Algeria)
Elections to the National Assembly of France were held in Algeria on 17 June 1951. There were 30 seats for Algeria out of 625 at the National Assembly and 14 at the Council of the Republic (Senate).

The 1951 legislative elections among the Muslim College, like the Algerian Assembly election of 1948, were rigged by the colonial administration to the detriment of the three anticolonial parties

^^
Nice part of apartheid rule. I give you that. But it still is that they were voting, and were French citizens. Not some citizen of any other country.

Totally irrelevant to the subject. You're not able to dispute right wingers dragged in immigrants for well over a decade under their policies.

 

I already quoted it, only 10 000 of them were french citizens, most of the voters were pieds-noir. Which doesn't change that once indenpendant, they loose any right to be citizens/nationals. It's the point of indenpendance, the pieds noir moved to France however.

Because you're living in an imaginary world, I never denied that.

 

I agree. The radical revolutionary left of the 60s blew up stuff. It was used as an example of how both the left and the right, the radicals, have been violent and destructive. It is not strictly a right wing thing, and history teaches as much.

 

I sourced that they all had the right to vote. I sourced France is not able to arbitrary acknowledge ones nationality and not somebody elses. I already sourced everybody got a right to a nationality... and France was their ONLY option. And you haven't disputed anything about this.

In everybody's world right wing France opened the doors for African immigrants looking for a job for over a decade.
Yet you were dumb enough to pin this on the left.

 

It is strictly right wing who is over the top violent. They have killed numerous people.
The subject is that they were trying to kill the French president for the second time.
They gave it a try in Spain too. Not to mention what goes on in the US.
You don't see the left doing that today.

 

I already sourced that only 10 000 of them had the french citizenship at the moment of the indenpendance, and anyway, indenpendance have undone their citizenship.

I never denied that many right winged politician betrayed France aswell. I pin this on the left, because it's the leftists militants which defend mass migration, not the right wing one.

No the left have murdered many people (Action direct) in the eighties. There is many violent actions against the left, which try to murder policemen how I have already shown it. At every manifestation, there is dozen of leftist violences against policemen.

I don't deny the problem of far right violence, it's just your attempt to depict the left as pacifist which is ridiculous.

There were a leftist terrorist attack which was prevented two years ago :
https://www.lci.fr/faits-divers/hau...pose-une-bombe-lors-de-la-cop-21-2076375.html

There is the corsican terrorism, but that's something else, and in a way, reality proved them right.

 

I proved they all had a French citizenship. You're just not responding to that.

Witch is retarded, because the right wingers made that policy... and stuck to it for a full decade.

 

Full citizenship "on request".
Just after the paragraph :
This was intended to promote assimilation, but as few people were willing to abandon their religious values, it had the opposite effect.[5] By 1870, fewer than 200 requests had been registered by Muslims, and 152 by Jewish Algerians.[6] The 1865 decree was then modified by the 1870 Crémieux decrees, which granted full French nationality to the Jews of Algeria, followed in 1889 by étrangers ("foreigners"). The opposition was keen to give the same right to Muslims, but the French settlers did not want to equip the natives with rights equal to their own, primarily for demographic reasons.[clarification needed] Moreover, it was at Algeria's request that an 1889 Act restoring the droit du sol (French citizenship being awarded to anyone born in France) was not applied to Muslims.
Doesn't change that algerian indenpendance made them algerian citizen not french citizen.

Right winger leaders. The average right winger never defended mass migration, at the opposite of the left winger. By the way, we have to reproach to all kind of traitors their treason to France, and it include the all the right wingers which organized the invasion of France by those foreigners. The fact it lasted for a decade is slighty incorrect, because mass migration will start in 1976 with the "familial gathering" allowing a foreigner to make come their spouse, kids. It's interesting to notice that Macron betrayed even more the french people by allowing brother and sisters to come.
But we're speaking of two different things, I speak of the common people and you're speaking of the leader. You're correct when you says that the right wing organized that too, but it's the left winged militatns which defend multiculturalism.

When the civil war will start because of their policies, there will be a bunch of traitors to judge, and I don't care if they feel themselves blue or right, they're traitors, and that's all that matter for me.

 

You're still not responding that they already had that citizenship. I proved they had it.

They voted for them again and again to keep this up.

 

No, you're quoting the situation as it was in a theorical way, when I already mentionned you, that in reality very few of them became citizens. There were a large difference between the theory and the reality.
Not only few of them were citizens, but indenpendance made them even less citizen.

Not really, no right winged president was elected on the project "I will open the gates of France to hundred of thousands of african foreigners". Neither left winged president. That's just a deplorable initative they took.
At the opposite, J.Chirac and especially Sarkozy, which were/are individually just two bandit were elected on the promise of expulsing illegal foreigners and controlling the border.
By the way, things are not easy as the medias make a non-stop propaganda "if you're against the invasion of France, yo'ure a nazi".

 

Because that was the way it was. You have not disputed this one bit, since it wasn't the imaginary way.

I remains indisputable that right wingers did opened the gates for 100.000's of Africans.
And right wing France kept voting for this for over a decade in a row.

 

No I already quoted you that only around 10 000 muslims were french citizen at the moment of the indenpendance. France outlawed slavery in Mauritania in the 30's, they never managed to suppress it. The laws and its application are sometimes very different. And what I quoted ? A paragraph after your own quote.

Not really, you vote for someone which has basically unlimited power for a bunch of years. I already quoted on the topic the fact that french people don't trust their politician. N.Sarkozy was elected on the promise of limiting immigration and fighting illegal immigration. No french preisdents.
There were no french president which ever promised to open french borders to hundred of thousands of foreigners.
Go on, quote me the program of any elected candidate which promised that. Because nobody promised that. It's an initiative took by governements.

And that's the nature of french democracy and democracy in a general way, compulsive liars which promised everyting in the hope of being elected and never have to pay back for anything.

 

And I proved that they all had that nationality. I sourced this.

Yes really. We're talking about the same kind of right wing governments who ruled over a decade, with the exact same kind of open door immigration policies. If they wanted something else, they could have voted on an other party. You pinning this on the left, is fake news. I sourced all of this.

 

You're just suddenly changing the topic. You was speaking of "right to vote" and you just changed to nationality. Yes, they had the nationality, but not the citizenship. Indigeneat made muslims in Algeria nationals but not citizens creating a distinction between the two.
Anyway they lost this nationality in 1962 to become algerian national and citizens.

Oh, they started to vote for another parti, then the medias started to cry to "fascism" and started a heavy propaganda against the FN. There is only two right winged parti in France. Anyway, few people vote for parti they love but for the one they dislike the less.

 

how vague... they are holding six people...and the plot is vague and ill-defined, so does this mean they are going to waterboard the rest of the plot out of them

 

The entire point is about them people being able to go to present day France. And I proved that.

You're just distracting. The point is you accused the left of opening the borders, while I proved it was the right. just opened the gates wide open with THEIR policies. Right wingers were so pleased with that, they kept on voting for it.

 

I'd hate to interrupt this propaganda post with a disturbing development: The pittsburgh shooter did not like POTUS Trump. You may carry on with your day.

 

Yes, he wanted Trump to be more right wing. Next

 

No, he wanted Trump to share his ideology of hate which he doesn't. Next.

 

It was your typical alt right winger, the Jew will not replace us.
We all saw them lot march around.