Skripal Who Was Poisoned Had Ties To DMC & Clinton

MAaate I use the term as a descriptor for those who are NOT using common sense

Does it make sense that the moon landings were faked? That 911 was an inside job? That 97% of scientists are in collusion to defraud the rest of the planet over climate change??

Conspiracy theory thinking - where ridiculous and nonsensical rubbish is interconnected to "prove" some piece of twaddle is rife and has been growing thanks to the likes of Infowars

 

If 'objective' and 'trying to make the West hate on Russia' are your guides here then you are coming to some very odd conclusions. This is what I always find fascinating about conspiracy theorists (and that is the path you are taking). They ignore the obvious and then construct the strangest justifications. I particularly like the idea that evidence pointing to Russian involvement is actually proof of a conspiracy. You are a long way through the looking glass I'm afraid.

Why would trying to kill a former Russian spy make 'the West hate on Russia'? Most people aren't going to care that much. If that really was the aim why not kill a few children as part of this botched attempt? Easy enough to do. Why not set off a bomb to kill or injure him? Spectacular footage, especially if you can kill a few civilians. Even by your own twisted logic this doesn't work.

The most obvious explanation here is that someone connected with the Russian government tried to make an example of this guy, as has been done to so many people who have stood against the current regime. It is 100% in keeping with the way Putin operates. The saddest thing is that whatever he does, no matter how nasty, there are always people lining up to excuse, obfuscate and distract.

 

If Putin said the world was round, most on the MSM and with the Democratic Party would say it was because he made a secret deal with Trump to sell round globes of the earth in exchange for not doing Hilary Clinton's nuclear attack against Russia on behalf of ISIS in Syria.

 

http://www.oldamericancentury.org/pnac.htm

 

Apparently it is dangerous to work for the Clintons.

 

the only ties to Clinton and the DMC is via Christopher Steele and Skripal's contribution to "the" dossier... which points the finger directly at Russia

 

I'm not a Democrat, I voted against her, and we can talk about legitimate complaints about Clinton all day long if you want. That doesn't change the fact that these pathetic, desperate, empty-minded conspiracy theories are pathetic, desperate and empty-minded.

 

He didn't work for the Clintons. Neither did most people on the fake "hit list."

 

Why are you scrambling to change the subject to Ghadafi?

 

Golly, the hits keep coming.. At this point, who, in their right mind, would ever work for a Clinton again?

 

I did say that I didn't say Russia didn't attempt this botched 'poisoning' attempt, but you seem to have already forgotten that....

You ask, "Why would trying to kill a former Russian spy make 'the West hate on Russia'?" Because it plays so flawlessly into the widely promulgated 'Russian-assassination-by-poison' meme! That's what I was making tongue-in-cheek reference to in my "Film Noir' cartoon of "The Spy Who Came In From The Cold", but that was obviously lost on you. Like the earlier, "TheThird Man", this movie was an interesting example of Cold War theater, but starring the magnificent Richard Burton. You should try to see it sometime if you like 'spy-versus-spy' dramas, but I suspect that little Tom Cruise's "Mission Impossible" series is more to your, uh, taste. Motorcycle chases are much more tactile than 'poisoning'....

The Russians may indeed have done this, really. I never denied it. Anyone can kill anyone, while pretending to be anyone else. But, they're usually MUCH more, uh, professional than this. If Putin did order this 'sanction', he wouldn't have sent the "B"-team to do it....

. Could have starred in one of them old Cold War movies....

 

Look, I'll just hit a couple of these that I've grown familiar with over the years.

McDougal had known pre-existing heart condition. He died of his pre-existing condition. He died after his involvement in the Starr investigation. If the Clintons had wanted to hush him up, he would have been killed before he cooperated with Starr, not after.

An outright lie. Note: I'm not accusing you, a fellow forumite of lying. I'm accusing whatever author you copy/pasted this from. Yes, Mahoney died. Her killer confessed. No, there is absolutely no evidence she was about to go public with any such story. None at all. That's one of the biggest lies on this list. If you actually do some homework and dig for where this rumor started, it is based entirely around the fact that it had been leaked that a former intern whose name started with the letter M was about to come public with such a story. She did. Her name was Monica Lewinsky.

Ruled a suicide because it was a suicide, especially seeing as he had been calling his doctor about his sever depression.

There was no bullet found, no fragments, no exit wound. No, he wasn't shot. The plane crashed and he was one of more than thirty people who died in said crash.

This is my favorite because it is one of the most desperate and one of the best examples of how conspiracy theorists abandon all critical, rational thought and start reaching for anyone who is six degrees of separation from Clinton in order to slap together their nonsense. Shelton was the fiancee of a woman who's ex husband was a co-defendant of the Clintons during Whitewater . . . and?

Guys, guys! Clinton's sign language person died in a car accident . . . and that . . . um . . . is suspicious . . . because . . . reasons! Stop thinking and put on this tinfoil hat before Satanic pizza delivery driver cannibals steal your thoughts!

Translation: The author of the article you are quoting too lazy to even come up with actual conspiracy theories anymore, so please make some up for him!

This one is another one of those particularly desperate one. For one, the death was ALWAYS reported as a barbell accident. From the beginning. The only time a heart attack was even mentioned was in connection to the barbell accident . . . because that is one of the two ways people generally die in a bench press accident: heart attack or suffocation. So please don't drag Columbo's good name in the mud by inventing nonsensical "details" like this. Go back and look at the threads that were started after news of this came out . . . I was on them . . . it was always, from the very beginning, reported as a barbell accident. And Ash had already testified against the Clintons several times. If they really wanted to hush him up, why not, you know, kill him before he talked instead of after he had already been talking for quite a while?

 

He didn't work for Clinton.

 

No? Are you sure?

 

I'm sure there is no evidence he worked for Clinton and that desperate tinfoil hatters are trying to use their six degrees of separation again in order to play make believe. I'm sure that no on who is actually interested in evidence is willing to believe this BS without it. I'm sure the entire "Clinton body count" house of cards is built on a shaky foundation of lies, wishful thinking and sad paranoia.

 

Skirpal didn't work directly for Hillary, he was known, a colleague, perhaps an associate of some other spy who was involved with Steele's "Orbis". We don't know if Skirpal or his friend who worked with Steele at Orbis had anything to do with the dossier, but it would not be unreasonable to suppose he did since he is Russian and so are plenty of the purported sources in that dossier. Steele's sources are described as involved in Russian intelligence, so was Skirpal, it seems likely Skirpal knew at least some of Steele's sources.

 

Yes, the argument is that Skripal was an associate of a guy who was part of a firm who was hired by a research firm who was hired by a law firm who was hired by the DNC . . . and he was targeted by Clinton because (Choose your own adventure). But you are right about the fact that we don't know anything about him that warrants the conspiracy theories being proposed. Let me know if they ever actually find any meat to it.

 

Dude I get you, but there are and were many things that did not make sense. They lied about the WMD's in Iraq, who would thought that they did that when US presented the evidence?

Why would Russia poison a spy in England when they had him couple years back in custody? Why not kill him then.
Which is more logical? Britts poisoned him to blame Russia, or Russia did it on UK soil? I mean it can be both. I would even say it is really really dumb that Russians did it in UK. I mean they are blamed either way.

People just want to believe the side they are cheering for. How is that not clear as day? It's one thing conspire about earth being flat and another thing when a spy is killed with political motives(The logic ends there)

 

I'm not too sure. When the airplane from Moscow crashed two of those on board were witnesses to something that had to do with Hillary Clinton. Vladimir Putin even cancelled his trip to Socchi to help in the investigation. That the connection with Hillary Clinton was even mentioned is odd.

But then again there's always witchcraft. Anyway I think there is a lot more going on than what we are being told.

 

When you are literally having to reach for *magic* at your explanation . . . maybe rethink being so dedicated to your desired conclusion that you are willing to abandon all reason.

 

When Britain wants to brainwash people into believing something which has no logical basis in a way that won't incriminate them legally, they use terms like:

'alleged'
'highly likely'
'we believe'
'everything points to'

Well true to form, PM May came out today with: "Highly likely Russia was behind spy poisoning."

Which means of course, the poisoning is probably another one of MI6's propaganda stunts to accuse Russia. It is reminiscent of other things like their creation of the White Helmets by one of their agents so as to demonize Assad. By presenting the terrorist group as humanitarians it gives credence to the their lies and false flag attacks in demonizing Assad.

That innocents die means nothing to them. Don't you know, it's all for the greater good?

Hey, I am not the one that's into necromancy. Hillary is the one who converses with someone who has been dead for 50 years. Yeah right, as if Eleanor Roosevelt would ever tell Hillary to destroy nations and cause the deaths of millions.

 

If possible, this just keeps getting more bizarre and more detached from reality.

 

If the power structure can keep us focused upon Russia, etc, they can continue to sodomize the american public economically at will.

 

Australia knew - and if you want to find out how look at a four corners program called "spinning the tubes" http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/spinning-the-tubes---2003/2844956 and one called the Then look at the main architects of that war - and there were only a few top level people - Wolfowitz Cheney and Perle all of whom believed that the could sonquer the Middle East one country at a time

Conspiracy theories pan out if there are only a couple of people involved - when there are hundreds or even thousands it is not a conspiracy

And I am not calling bullshit on the Russian spy poisoning - although after the polonium poisoning we would believe anything of Putin

I am calling bullshit on the paranoid thinking around Clinton

 

Are you trolling???