Sloan Kettering and Cancer and Grape Seed Extract

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    There are many other links on the connection of this powerful antioxidant and when I heard of it back in 1995 from a group of doctors and researchers telling us it May prevent cancers, I didn't hesitate to start on it, that was almost 27 yrs ago.

    I believe I was at the right place at the right time.

    [​IMG]Grape SeedAs a by-product of wine production, grape seeds are ground to produce grape seed oil. Grape seed extract (GSE) …Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center

    [​IMG]Grape Seed Extract Has Cytotoxic Effects on Human Cancer CellsNEW ORLEANS--An extract derived from the seeds of red grapes, currently available as a dietary supplement (Acti…Cancer Network

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    I am not sure what the last sentence refers to.

    By the way, the purpose of the Health Care forum is: Discuss the health care system(s) available in various countries.

    Just to note “cytotoxic effects on human cancer cells” means that when Grape Seed Extract was added to cancer cell lines in a Petri dish, the GSE was toxic to cells. This doesn’t mean GSE works the same way in the body and obviously it doesn’t or there would be headlines about that somewhere.
     
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    All I can say if only Grape Seed Extract was advertised on the tv's and how many people could/would
    escape cancers.....it's tragic and Sloan and others are Shut Up by pharma since Grape Seed Ex
    cannot be patented.....cancer is a HUGE money making business. Grape Seed Extract PENNIES,,,

    And another person reported that Sloan K researchers back in the 50's found the Grape Seed Ex connection and was thrown under the bus, no money and no patent for pharma...
     
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    Grape Seed Extract is pennies but there isn't enough to research to support that it prevents cancer and so forth.

    There isn't any conspiracy here for Big Pharma to shut companies up that are interested in GSE as a possible prevention, treatment, adjunct to treatment and so forth.

    Cancer isn't just one disease, it's an entire family of over 200 I believe. There isn't ever going to be one preventative agent, one treatment, or even one cure. Not all cancers can be prevented.

    Let's pretend that it was discovered that Grape Seed Extract did cure cancer or prevent it. Do you believe that Big Pharma would not do everything in its power to exploit that and not being patentable wouldn't stop them. They would find a way to package proanthocyanidins into a pill and make money off it. Even if they didn't, pharmaceutical companies already selling GSE would make billions and billions because the 'cure' or 'prevention' would be needed by millions and millions.

    I don't even know how Big Pharm would have the capability of contributing to such a massive collusion whereby nobody on the planet would be able to promote any preventative/treatment options of GSE. There is a lot of research out there related to GSE.

    There are many preventive things people can do to prevent their chances of getting cancer in the first place -- including taking GSE, if they choose to.

    This link has a list of research articles related to Grape Seed Extract -- https://scholar.google.co.uk/schola...d+extract&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart

    It contains about 32,000 results.

    This link has a list of research articles related to Grape Seed Extract and Cancer -- https://scholar.google.co.uk/schola...les+about+grape+seed+extract+and+cancer&btnG=

    It contains about 21,600 results

    I would say then, that Big Pharma is doing a very poor job of 'shutting up' everybody. I suppose saying that Big Pharma stifles anything positive about GSE is the easiest way for people to explain away a lack of supporting data.
     
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    Big pharma has been doing so much to TRY to take all our supplements from us...and Durbin of the Dem Party is right
    along with them, those whores...

    And YOU don't like the Grape Seed info, don't read it, just ignore....you know how to Ignore???????
     
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    I didn’t say I didn’t like grape seed info, l said there isn’t enough information from reliable sources that states it has any effect on cancer to the extent you believe it does. It is being researched and as I showed you Big Bad Pharma isn’t shutting people up. Your views on Big Pharma are somewhat distorted

    You don’t need to get all bolded and sweary about it.

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    There NEVER will be enough info as Pharma won't let it happen and if it's a prevention, Pharma doesn't want that
    out there....YOU DON"T GET THAT......

    And I'll get bolded and I'm not sweary...whores are what they are.
     
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    I'll get bolded if I want to and I'm not sweary, they are whores.....and there will never BE ENOUGH info out there
    as Pharma won't let that happen, their drugs RULE and their PROFITS prove that one.....

    Are you employed by Pharma or just choose a closed mind????
     
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    Pharma is not controlling any information about Grape Seed Extract cause there is no reason why they would, it’s not that important to them because it really doesn’t do anything more than a good balanced diet.

    You don’t need to shout either.

    Saying that Pharma won’t allow any good information about GSE is totally erroneous judging by the huge number of studies out there. The world isn’t just made up of Big Pharma. There are independent scientists who work for many Universities or other independent facilities. There are many that work in health care that have nothing to do with Big Pharma. Yes, Big Pharma makes lots of money, yet they also spend a lot on making new and better medications. Pharmaceuticals save lives. There are good things and bad things about Big Pharma, I think most people can appreciate that.

    l don’t really want to get down to the level of asking irrelevant questions (no l don’t work for Big Pharma) nor do I want to get into calling people’ close-minded which really isn’t very nice. At least I can appreciate the negative and positive aspects of Big Pharma.
     

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