So much for the rule of law

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  1. Cybred

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    Please post where in America that's happening.
     
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    Good Topic -- as the Rule of Law is being Sodomized hard these days .. from both ends.

    Sad commentary -- you have some kind of reverse understanding of the Rule of Law, the Teachings of Jesus, Abortion, Satan, Religious Right.

    Completely backwards .. each one you have

    1) It is Abortion Legislation which violates the Rule of Law -- and while you didn't bother to mention what "Rule of Law" was violated - leaving your claim not only unsupported but kind of meaningless as how is one supposed to figure out what you are talking about if we don't know which Rule of Law was violated an how -- I shall not follow suit.

    Repealing legislation - by definition can not violate the Rule of Law - It is the making of law which can violate the rule of law .. not the repealing of law.

    Abortion law violates - Equal Justice Under the Law - along with with being an anathema to the Constitutional Republic - Republicanism - Classical Liberalism

    2) Abortion law violates the teacings of Jesus -- let you figure this one out - since your beliefs seriously need some attention .. along with your soul .. should you be a "believer" Massive violation .. borderline "Abomination of Desolation - Awfull Horror"

    3) "Satan" You should not talk about entities .. of which you know little about .. "Demonizing" these entities .. with titles they do not hold.
    The Satan of the Jewish Bible .. in the Jewish Religion .. only acts at the behest of God's will.

    4) using the traditional definition of Satan - for those who didn't get the update (3) - it is the Religions Right who is acting at the behest of the "Anti Christ" .. down the dark path they have gone. Jesus did not believe in political activism .. and certainly not use of his teachings .. calling on his name .. for such .. Blasphamy of the highest order .. usurping the position of "The Logos" - "Speaking for God" .. Give to Ceasar what is Ceasars ..

    5) Abortion law is a violation is a corruption of principles of justice from a Secular perspective - fallacious utilitarianism is an anathema
    Abortion law is a violation of religious principes .. no good argument from a "Bible" perspective - as demonstrated by one simple question.

    When does the soul arrive ? and why !?

    and last ..Christians engaged in political activism in the name of God should be criticized .. first and formost by other Christians - and doubly so by followers of Jesus.
     
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  3. FatBack

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    Have you not seen women in burkas? Have you never heard of honor killings? Or female genital mutilation? How about San Bernardino did you ever hear of that? Perhaps a little event known as 9/11? It's possible you heard of that one I suppose...

    All of these happen right here in these United States of America.

    But I would not expect you to be much aware of these events as you are too busy hating on Christians.
     
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    And what rule of law is he talking about? No USC statute I can think of that they are violating per se. Since they are arguing that the decision has already been made, the 1950 statute, 18 USC 1507, only applies IF and ONLY IF the judges are in the midst of deciding a case at that time or impeding the administration of justice such as an execution or transportation of a prisoner or yelling inside a courtroom to delay sentencing, etc. However, Saul Alinsky said, "Change means movement. Movement means friction. Only in the frictionless vacuum of a nonexistent abstract world can movement or change occur without that abrasive friction of conflict." He also wrote, "“I prize my own independence too much. And philosophically, I could never accept any rigid dogma or ideology, whether it's Christianity or Marxism…The greatest crimes in history have been perpetrated by such religious and political and racial fanatics, from the persecutions of the Inquisition on down to Communist purges and Nazi genocide.” To me, I think he has been disappointed by everyone and decided to go his own way philosophically in his later years. He was Agnostic in his religious preference, which shares someone in our own nation's history, our very first radical Thomas Paine, whom Saul really, really, really admired.

    The conservative movement has, for at least 4 decades, been trying to overturn Roe v Wade in various of ways, means, and methods. The 2007 Mississippi law basically would criminalize physicians for abortions under any circumstances. Oklahoma, Texas, and a dozen or so other states with conservatives holding both the legislative branch AND the governorship have targeted even contraceptives, travel, miscarriages as manslaughter, and the list goes on and on. It started with picketing against abortion clinics, then a few bombings, then the pulpits began to become more political in the evangelical churches, and so forth.
     
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    Okay, what concepts did he teach that are problematic? Honestly I'm not hearing anything specific.
     
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    Okay how is this a problem? I actually agree with her that the system can be changed from the inside and there are many example of this happening.
     
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    I've had many teachers that I disagreed with, and many who I did agree with but how disagree with. What Alinksy concepts did Obama teach that are problematic?
     
  8. Cybred

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    I heard that those are not because of Islam and I heard of pedophile priests and the catholic church covering it up for 30+ years, opposition to homosexuality. IN THIS COUNTRY christians are 70-80% of the population so yep I'm more worried about them.
     
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    You heard wrong, they are concepts firmly rooted in the Islamic culture.

    It has been that way for thousands of years and little has changed.

    When's the last time Christians committed a San Bernardino or flew airplanes into the twin towers?

    But keep pretending it has nothing to do with the political ideology masquerading as a religion known as Islam
     
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    Army of God (United States) - Wikipedia
    Lord's Resistance Army - Wikipedia

    IN THIS COUNTRY christians are 70-80% of the population so yep I'm STILL more worried about them.
     
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    You should be far more worried about leftist inspired political terrorism. After all it was not a Christian who took an assault rifle and opened fire on a field full of congressmen practicing baseball that day.

    Isn't it funny how quickly that went down the rabbit / memory hole?

    James hodgkinson. Remember him? I'll bet you congressman Steve scalise does.

    But he's a good left-wing nut bag now..
     
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    How do you know?
     
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    Well for one thing you guys tell us that it's the conservatives who are Christian and he was obviously a left-wing nut bag and if he had been Christian at all remotely so the media would have blasted it across the TV for weeks on end that's how I know.
     
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    Except its the right that loves guns.
     
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    Except it was a left-wing nut bag that picked one up and shot up a congressional ball field.

    Plenty of liberals own guns they just don't go around and tell other buddies because they'll shun them for it. Typical double standards.
     
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    Alinsky was failed ward pol, a nobody even in Chicago politics. Why do rightwingers get so worked up over the guy?
    Sounds like the phony attacks on schools by rightwing extremists claiming teachers are "grooming" primary students.
    Gaslighting Alert!

    The two-thirds of Americans who support Roe v. Wade are "opposed to the rule of law?

    Exodus 20:16. You know where y'all are headed.
     
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    The lies coming from Republicans suggest they've adopted Alinsky's tactics.

    Tell us more about the "stolen" 2020 election. :roll: :roll:
     
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    You never heard of Saul Alinsky??
     
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    I've seen Christians organizing to force pregnant women to carry a fetus their doctor tells them can't survive outside their womb. I can't say I have much affinity for people who would do that.
     
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    Why would you be surprised a liberal hasn't heard of a nobody Chicago ward pol who has been dead for a half-century?
     
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    Because they use his tactics as if it were biblical.
     
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    Crackpot claim.

    PS. I'm not a liberal.
     
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    Women in Burkas is a freedom of religion concept or does freedom of religion only apply to Christians. To me, it does not matter. It is her choice to follow the specific hadith and the Quoran for that. And no one is forcing nonmuslim women, or even making that argument as a representative of the US Government, for that to happen. We have Buddhists, Sikhs who are often confused as Muslims, Shintoists, Christians of various sects, atheists, agnostics, and Judaism of various sects in this country. We even have animistic religions from people from Haiti and other Caribbean islands. All fall under the 1st amendment free exercise of religion clause while the no establishment clause also prevents any specific religion I named to not being the "official" religion of the United States.

    9/11 happened from a group of people who were extremists of one religion. Those extremists do not represent the whole just as 7th Day Adventists do not represent Christianity as a whole either. NOTE: 7th Day Adventists believe in the separation of sexes, both at church and elsewhere, such as swimming, sleeping, even when married, and so forth.
     
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    Those tactics have been used by both sides. In fact, Saul Alinsky was a big believer in organized protests to prove a specific point. Far Right-wing groups, such as the infamous 2017 Rally in Charlottesville, VA, and Million people marches for conservative causes have used his tactics as well as liberals.
     

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