North Korea dictator Kim Jong Un's executions: anti-aircraft guns, flamethrowers, mortars

There are a number of obama appointed holdovers in the Pentagon who are of questionable loyality

But they are still sworn to defend the US

Allowing America to be held hostage by a madman like kim may be too much even for them

You accuse trump of starting WWIII but if it happens it will be chinas fault not ours

 

Well overall he's just an ***hole.

He should be assassinated before his children become too old. He has had many wives and several children, the oldest being a boy around age 7.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/29/asia/kim-jong-un-third-child/index.html

Kim had two brothers, one he had killed, and the other is not deemed trustworthy. His two sisters are unlikely to assume command due to traditions in this kingdom.

When Kim is in his box during the next public gathering, he should be taken out with an airborne laser, along with the people around him.

 

On a personal level, he may very well be, we don't really know.

But you have to understand the situation he was put into by birth, he was given a radical country that believes he is a god king, one slip up and that facade goes away in the middle of the most radical and hermit country on earth. A country that already looks at him as weak compared to his predecessors. How do you think that would go?

The man loves almost everything American, if he would have been born a few hundred miles to the south, he never would have been a problem for anyone.

 

It isn't China that's occupying and/or threatening any of the Koreas at the time. It's you. You are the foreign element. You are the bad graft that tries to reject the whole host. You are neither wanted nor of any use out there, except, must I repeat, as a wire trigger for war. A war in which you will lose, even if you win.

And all because some demagogic dotard wants to please his base, the most ignorant and/or unaware of the world in the US. The fools litterally runs the asylum.

 

The US is not occupying south korea

We are there at the invitation of the legimate South Korean government

Kim is not only threatening the US but south korea and Japan also

He is truely a madman who must not be allowed to achieve his goals

And hopefully trump will not let him

China could stop this but if they choose not to then the consequences are on them

 

I get what you mean. He seems to enjoy basketball, K-pop and is said to eat a lot of Western foods. Maybe if I knew him personally, I'd think of him differently. And maybe if I inherited a country like he did, I'd be looked at negatively as well. But that doesn't change the reality that Kim Jong Un runs a cruel regime, is a disruption to the world and is threatening a nuclear war.

 

Nobody wants you there. You believe you are a Liberator? You would have if you packed away, but you don't pack out of any place where you established your pissing rights, isn't it? As of now you are not protecting Japan nor South Korea - to the contrary your conduct puts them at immediate risks. Right now what these people thanks their gods for is China, because it's among the powers that aims to descalate things instead of throwing oil into the fire, safe in their distance and un-concerned by anyone but their own selfish interests.

Such protectors. Would you accept such allies yourself - don't answer; of course you would, ain't you? As an American you would trust Americans. But that's the problem - these guys aren't Yanks.

 

Absolutely. But that being said, I don't think he is as stupid as some people believe. In fact, his ruthlesness in domestic politics could well be the result of a sharp mind.

 

Thats utter bullshit

The south Koreans want us there

 

It is far more sinister than that, Mac. China has a master strategy that, if successful, produces these results:

1. South Korea is annexed by China's puppet, North Korea.
2. Japan is threatened with annihilation, and, unable to defend itself, Japan agrees to become a vassal-state of China, North Korea, and to a lesser extent, Russia.
3. China projects power and dominance throughout East Asia and that portion of the Pacific Ocean. They use their man-made islands as a pretext to take over the entire South China Sea and everything it covers.
4. The United States is forced to withdraw from all of East Asia, in which it would no longer have any power or influence at all.
5. The United States Dollar is dislodged from its status as being "the world's reserve currency".

Meanwhile, the U. S. becomes completely paralyzed because of the unending, and worsening, political civil war that is raging in our government. I also see World War III, or something that looks a hell of a lot like it, coming in about 4 - 10 years. Have fun in the meantime....

 

A 2011 polls reports America's popularity to be around 74% in South Korea, one of the highest in the world at the time. However...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-American_sentiment_in_Korea

While protests have arisen over specific incidents, they are often reflective of deeper historical, anti-Western sentiment. Robert Hathaway, director of the Wilson Center's Asia program, suggests: "the growth of anti-American sentiment in both Japan and South Korea must be seen not simply as a response to American policies and actions, but as reflective of deeper domestic trends and developments within these Asian countries."Korean anti-Americanism after the war was fueled by American military presence and support for authoritarian rule, a fact still evident during the country's democratic transition in the 1980s. Speaking to the Wilson Center, Katharine Moon notes that while the majority of South Koreans support the American alliance "anti-Americanism also represents the collective venting of accumulated grievances that in many instances have lain hidden for decades."

Kind of like guests who, while well-liked, tend to overextend their stay, to the point where you can't get them out anymore. Koreans are also united by their dislike of Japan, BTW. These hatreds are older than America itself.

 

I agree with your forcast 100% and have written practically the same thiing myself

The lefties here are incapable of thinking beyond their next move and are only reacting to the immediate pressur that Kim is putting on them

They tend to see china as a benign panda bear that they want to protect from the evil Americans and north korea as a misundersttod child that just needs more love and tenderness

 

I agree. I don't think he's stupid. He's got millions of Americans repeating his own insult of Trump (dotard) on social media. I'm sure he can see what's going on in this country and will try to exploit it for his own good. But that's part of why I think Americans need to unite and take the North Korean threat more seriously. But I won't hold my breath.

 

Neither will I

 

Yes we need to take his threat seriously. If we invade, attack them, they will nuke us. So, rationally, reasonably, let us not invade nor attack them. We could say the same to china if when they get the ability to send a few million troops into america, to invade us, that if you do that, we will nuke you, with everything we have. See how this works? Oh of course not, for you guys are as irrational as a slug. Not to insult slugs.

 

Focus on the real antagonists, gentlemen.... We who have been paying attention already know that little Kim is just a puppet for China's Xi Jinping. But it gets worse... now it is coming into focus just how chummy and cooperative RUSSIA is getting to be with North Korea:
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/09/13/why-russia-props-up-dangerous-north-korean-regime.html
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/06/07/russia-north-korea-trade-china/102605222/

Vladimir Putin has been named by Forbes as the Most Powerful Leader in the World for the past four years in a row! He is a master "chess player" on the international scene who knows exactly what he's doing. THAT worries me, especially when our own government is nothing but a three-ring circus of chaos and rebellion....

 

Our enemies in russia, china, north korea, canada, germany, the UK and other places including the east and west coast of America see weakness in the very divided political situation in America

They know this the best time to strike

 

So your idea of taking the threat seriously is doing nothing? How you can say that in the same breath as calling me an irrational slug is unbelievable.

 

There's one problem with this theory.

Where does over 90% of China's food come from?

That's the reason China won't try anything, when you over populate your country and rely on imports to feed the masses, you lose the longevity needed to have a properly functioning system of civilization militarily, economically, and morally wise.

That's why China can not, and will not attempt to expand through Asia. We would starve them into total submission.

 

Should we do something about china's nukes? Russia's? Of course not. NK wants security from invasion by us. Is this not a rational position for NK to take? What has proven to keep our arses from invading? Nukes. NK is a rational actor and has repeatedly told us we are safe unless we try to take them out. I find this reasonable. Sane. While I find those like you who do not want NK to have security, insane. I do not fear NK. There is no reason to do so. Just allow them to have what all nations demand and want. Problem solved. And perhaps then NK would not spend so much treasure on defense, and feed their people better. This might even open doors for NK, and capitalism as china uses might help NK out. But she has to have security from our war mongering empire first. Yet it is clear our insane oligarchy does not want that.

 

You hit the nail in the middle of its head! And THAT is what worries me so much right now. When is the best time to strike out at an adversary? When it's already wracked with internal strife, when one half of the country HATES the other half, and when it's so paralyzed with divisiveness and contradiction that it can't do ANYTHING to its own benefit.

If Kim moves, though, he won't move against South Korea directly! He'll drum up some excuse to put a sword to Japan's throat, and then dare the U. S. do actually DO something about it. China will back Kim's play, and Russia will probably go along, too. The North Koreans, the Chinese, and the South Koreans absolutely hate Japan's guts because of all that Japan did in East Asia during the first half of the 20th-century. The Russians will go along with the others because they're mad at us due to what they see as our interference in their Crimean/Ukraine situation. If that happens, guys, WE ARE F*CKED throughout East Asia, and in a general sense, throughout the world. I simply cannot make myself believe that the vicious, America-hating factions in our own country would support Trump, even if he were going to go to war to protect Japan!

So, what better time for China/North Korea/Russia to pull this off than right now? They can't wait until the elections next year in this country, because that's when Democrats will take over both the House and the Senate. The Democrats will take all power away from Trump in January 2019 -- BUT, there would be a unified government once again in the U. S. And, even though it would be under a bunch of scumbag Libocrats, a unified enemy is a more powerful enemy.... Democrats wouldn't want the whole thing in East Asia to go completely to hell with themselves in a position of dominant power in this country, and I doubt that China/North Korea/Russia would wait for the anticipated Democrat takeover....

 

China?

In 1978, China embarked on a policy of achieving self-sufficiency in food. As the country’s economic reform program began to take hold and productivity in its agricultural sector increased, China managed to achieve this goal by the end of the last century. In fact, China surprised many observers when it became a net exporter of agricultural products in 2002, its first year as a member of the World Trade Organization (WTO).

A great deal has changed since then, however. In 2012, WTO said that China had surpassed the United States to become the world’s largest importer of agricultural products. Even with 500 million farmers, China has been unable to meet the country’s growing demand for grains, soy beans and other commodities. And it’s about to get worse.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackperkowski/2013/04/25/feeding-chinas-population/#61fbd77e2941

In the four years after China joined the World Trade Organization in 2001, and agreed to lower tariffs designed to protect local farmers from import competition, U.S. farm exports to China nearly tripled $5 billion, according to the USDA. As of 2013, the latest figures available, China represents a $26 billion market for U.S. grains, meat, dairy products, fibers and other goods.

While the U.S. is the top provider of Chinese food imports, it is not alone in feeding the world's most populous nation. Brazil, Australia, Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia, Canada and Argentina are among American farmers' top competitors in supplying China with food.

https://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/21/how-hungry-is-china-for-the-worlds-food.html

China's food demand is actually a boon for US farmers, whose place the Brazilian, Australian, Thailandese etc ones will gladly take... unless you expect some heart and good values into business.

Also, consider your economical debt to China (and thank Reagan for it): If China sells it on the open market, your currency will be devaluated as a result.

 

China is not a backwoods communist country run by a dynastic, mentally unstable leader who is assumed to have Godlike qualities by half his population.

Russia is a potential ally in some cases, and in any cases has a vast nuclear arsenal that nobody in their right mind would try to mess with.

NK has proven it won't be happy feeding its people until South Koreans also belong to Kim's rule. It's not like things will magically get better once Kim is able to hit Chicago with a nuke. The situation will only get worse.

 

I think for many reasons it is in America and China's mutual interest not to have a war in Korea

But the decision is up to them because they have some control over Kim jun un whereas we don't

China could avoid a war by staging a coup and removing him from power

 

I think they might wait

The idea might be to stall trump somehow while north korea perfects its ICBM's possibly with hydrogen warheads

If that happens they could simply wait a short time till the next spineless finger wetting washington establishment democrat is in office and then threaten him or her into submission.

That would set off the chain of events we spoke of earlier following your post.

China and russia and iran could divide up the world without firing a shot