We see a lot of confusion in political debates about socialism. I see the main confusion stems around the fact that socialism has a political component and an economic component. A. Politically-Socialism is founded on egalitarianism. Every citizen of the state has the same right to economic goods as any other, regardless of their ability to create, produce etc. We see this ideology behind modern day progressives e.g. you deserve a "living" wage regardless of what you produce, the demonization of anyone who's financially better off regardless of their extra skill, creativity etc. B. Economically-In order to ensure the equal distribution of economic goods, the state determines what to produce and who will produce. There's only a handful of command system economies left because of obvious shortcomings to the economic system..... e.g. North Korea, Cuba. The list of reasons why socialism fails as an economic system are numerous: 1. Little to no private property 2. No incentive to create AKA ingenuity and innovation 3. Inefficiency of a centralized government producing and distributing goods and services 4. The state determines what is produced and how it's produced instead of consumers who actually consume the goods...... ad infinitum What do we have today on the left???? Well, there's few actual "socialists" left. MOST people with any kind of ability to think understands that socialism as en economic systems FAILS hardcore. There's SOME that will call for turning healthcare over to the government completely or nationalized oil, etc. but their stupidity and inability to study history is few and far between. What we have now is the modern day progressive or democratic socialist. They're more than happy to have capitalism produce wealth. They just think they're entitled to a larger piece of the pie, sometimes with the only caveat of being born..... In other words, they want capitalism to fuel their perpetual welfare state as they EXPECT the government to redistribute wealth accordingly because they "deserve" it for doing nothing. What they FAIL to realize is EVERY dollar spent on "welfare"(not general welfare) has to be taken directly from "producers". Take healthcare for example. The U.S had led on R&D in healthcare for decades. If we had a socialized healthcare system like the rest of the world, the entire world would likely be decades behind in medical diagnosis and treatment. Some nations are catching up on R&D but only because Americans put forth the initial R&D effort. In short: The left wants the benefits of capitalism and the benefits of socialism at the same time. They want their cake and eat it too. That's why I like to characterize them as blood sucking leeches. I have a moral issue against modern socialism too. The state has no moral justification to use force in order to take from one who earns and hand to another who didn't. That's called robbery under any other circumstances. A MORAL society respects the ability of others and their private property. If a government collects taxes, it SHOULD be used as a benefit to the entire society e.g. infrastructure, research, education. I'll leave you with a quote for those who "think" benevolence can be handed out by state force. Feel free to comment, critique, challenge etc. Of course it's a simplified version as I'm lazy. I'll elaborate my principles and ideals as they become challenged.