Someone quietly bombs Syria now

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  1. MVictorP

    MVictorP Well-Known Member

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    Sometimes wars are necessary to end up what is un-acceptable.

    So, are you into evil?
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes totally... are you experiencing any discomfort yet

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    MVictorP Well-Known Member

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    :truce:

    Somehow I just knew it.
     
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    Iran support has been no big thing. The Houthi had plenty of money and all the ammunition they could want when the ex President aligned with them. Iran has had minor involvement and there was a possibility Hezbollah trained some Houthi in Lebanon. Iran did chat to them and for instance told them not to take over the government but they just went ahead and did it. When Saleh was still President, before Yemen had its 'Arab Spring' which was I think one of the first and very much one of the most real from the people, though we never heard of it, before that Saleh himself was trying to get the US to bomb the Houthis by telling them that they were in cahoots with Iran but US Intelligence found this was not so. However by the time the US is in cahoots with doing a genocide on one of the poorest people in the world, suddenly the US is saying that they are a proxy of Iran. It simply is not true.
     
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    You have no response because you are just playing games. You hate the Houthis and you want them dead. The Houthis are the people in the North. I do not know why you want them dead but I do know you do because I came upon that Australian article asking australians for god sake to stop taking this attitude.
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I gave you a response you ignored it and I couldn't care less, but I will not buy into your propaganda, I noticed an article about 6 hours old Iran denying it's presence in Yemen. So clearly this is a Iranian push to deny being in Yemen and you are supporting it. Your position makes perfect sense to me, what you are saying though is a blatant lie
     
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    Unlike yourself I spent at least a couple of months researching this and arguing with Margot. You wouldn't know reality if it hit you in the face. In any case it appears your interest is more to flirt with people. You didn't start discussing this with me because you are aware of that time I spent with Margot when I researched just about everything though you were just as rude though you never came up with any genuine contribution. I simply do not think genocide is something fun to get off on and flirt about on a forum. I am sorry your real life is so empty.
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :lol: do you even know Margot has left... you've been talking to the voices in your head.
    I flirt because I'm bored, you better stop boring me or I might start flirting with you :lol:

    Alexa you have been wasting your time researching, because if after all this time it took you to come to the conclusion Iran is not in Yemen, then it's been a total waste. You are correct when you say I don't spend hours researching, however I have a reasonably good memory and speed read, so probably go through a lot more material than you do in half the time. My bullshit meter is fairly good also, so don't swallow as much garbage as you likely do.

    Again I care nothing for your opinion and will post whatever I like, whenever I like, however I like. As long as it's within the rules of the forum :) Rules, which btw you have just broken with your personal attack.

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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    btw Alexa, if by flirting you are referring to my post to "MVictorP" then I think it's absolutely vital for me to inform you this is NOT flirting, so please don't try it and think you are flirting. It's far too crude to be considered flirting. Flirting if done correctly have much more subtlety to it, that was merely my evil response to his suggestion I'm evil
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Scarlet Witch.

    Oh course I know margot has not been posting for some time. I am not even going to read the rest of you rubbish. You know full well what I am talking about as whether in this main thread or other smaller ones you would come in from time to time with abuse.

    'Only God can save us': Yemen blockade may cause world's largest famine in decades

    Yemen is the biggest humanitarian catastrophe in the world - worse than Syria but we do not hear about it because the people who are doing the harm there are Saudi Arabia and her Western allies....and it has been like that since the Yemen Arab Spring when the North and South were together wanting change to genuine democracy.

    Saudi Arabia has been after Yemen since before the British left and has been involved in all wars concerning Yemen. Iran is just the latest catch phrase which people put mindlessly on. When Saudi Arabia started attacking this time, the Houthi were already in an alliance with the ex President of Yemen and had a large part of Yemin's army and war apparatus supplied by the US. They did not need Iran to try and somehow manage to get something through waters that no one can pass.

    Yes, in this situation Iran would I am sure be prepared to help where it could but where it could is minimal but Iran being 'In Yemen' is simply spreading false propaganda in an attempt to continue a war which cannot be won, which is the worst humanitarian situation at present in the world. Fun for you but it disgusts me.

    Yet I can remember than some months ago you admitted that Iran was not a proxy in Yemen but here you are in post 220
    Wrong and even you had at one time to admit that was not so and that was what after deciding to ignore the vast amount of total rubbish you have been writing I got so irritated as you are pushing for a situation which cannot even be won by your Saudi Friends but one which has already split Yemen, the South now being run by the UAE with ISIS terror attacks every day from what I have been reading and the North just dying. Not fun Scarlet Witch for anyone except you.

    Iran has no proxy in Yemen and the Houthi are not Hezbollah which themselves are not as you would like to assert run by Iran in your conspiracy laden world view.

    Even the help they mention there is questionable. The Houthi had a large part of the the Yemen army - cannot remember much that was but seem to remember about half or more of the Yemen army to support and train them. Iran may have given them some support but there is no way absolutely no way that Iran has anything like a Proxy and that is what I can remember you admitting some months ago, believing you had put something really well implying that but not meaning it and saying later that you knew that was not true. Clearly you did not because here you are again ranting on about something which is not true.
     
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    Part 2

    From Yemen itself on using this supposed link between Iran and the Houthis to promote genocide in Yemen
    It should be borne in mind that Hadi was imposed upon Yemen in a supposed election where no one was allowed to stand against him. The people of Yemen were promised this would only be for two years so while this may have been seen as good accomplishment by the US and by Saudi Arabia and its coalition who arranged it, it was not so for the people of Yemen. After these two years passed, the people of Yemen ousted him or the Houthis in the main did, having been pushed to do so by Saleh.

    anyway it went on to say that this gave the Republicans a reason to diss Obama then
    While the Houthis have been the major adversary of Isis and Al Qaeda and similar in Yemen

    http://sanaacenter.org/publications/analysis/5201

    That is an excellent if long article and well worth a read for anyone interested not just in Yemen and how the genocide going on there has been excused and tried to be made pretty by identifying the Houthis with Iran but also on US policy towards Iran.

    Germany halts weapons exports to parties in Yemen conflict

    Western countries should be harassing their governments to also do this. Obviously mainly the UK and US. Some other European countries have now stopped this. Among all the lovely things the UK are sending KSA are barrel bombs.

    Witch, you are great at trying to push Trump and the GOP's Agenda on Iran or you clearly know nothing about it and for some reason have a fixation against the civilians of Yemen and Iran. I do not know where or for what reason you would be plying such propaganda which has resulted in Yemen being the worst humanitarian situation in the world, worse even than Syria, though of course as it is Saudi Arabia supported by the West causing this we do not hear much about it.

    Now I have a day to live and you have stolen too much of it having to rehash old things which you yourself claimed you knew months ago.
     
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    Well then why should I bother with your copy and paste job, do you actually ever have an original thought of your own?

    You have selective empathy, full of sympathy for Palestine and Yemen but when I told you Iran is using Afghan and Syrian refugees as cannon fodder, you didn't even bat an eyelid. You simple didn't care because it does not fit your Hezbollah political agenda.

    Iran needs to GET OUT of Yemen, their being there is fuelling this war and humanitarian disaster. If the Saudis pulled back, Iran would only push ahead and this whole war and humanitarian disaster would move to Saudi Arabia, millions more would be dead and food insecure.

    The solution is Iran must leave, ISIS and Al Qaeda will then be dealt with. You do not have the high moral ground Alexa, you are part of the problem,
     
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    In my "real life", I bother people rather quickly with my political interests; That's why I come here, and that's why I value my interlocutors here, even if they have a completly different set of political views - the intelligent ones, that is.

    Let's be honest here; I don't think there is no more than half a dozen cases of convertions here, on any given board: I ain't going to change another poster's opinion today, so might as well discourse with them in a civilised, pleasant manner, something that I try to do with every poster (as my historical will tell), hence the occasional winks and pokes. It encourages people to feel comfortable and open up, regardless of the genders, resulting in a less bullshtty exchange.

    Some other times I failed. And yet I shall try again. Because the returns are too good to pass. Sorry for the OT.
     
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    It is against forum rules to speak about other posters so I cannot reply to your criticisms of me. I will say however you did not know what the situation was about and what you said has no relevance.
     
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    I don't remember criticizing you - to the contrary. I truely appreciate what you bring here.
     
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    Then I read you wrong. :)
     

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