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  1. Tejas

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    There are a few states left where a girl can marry at age 14 [maybe with parental approval.]

    According to the cultural mores at the time, the Virgin Mary was probably in her mid-teens when God impregnated her.

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  2. Joe knows

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    It proves my point that you are lying in saying they never did have sexual interactions because it’s not a fact they did not. The fact she never said they didn’t is proof enough for me.
     
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    So did this big thing happen in July then? I'm not aware of anything that could reasonably meet your description but maybe I'm overlooking something.
     
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    So, let me get this straight. The fact Helen Kimball herself never said they had sexual relations means they had sexual relations when she was a minor. Do you see how insane you now sound? And, why are you calling me a liar? I'm stating fact that there is no evidence that they had sexual relations when she was a minor. Did they have sexual relations after she turned 18? No, because he was dead by then. His sealing to Helen was for eternity, not time and eternity. To understand this, read this article, also from BYU, It also talks about group sealings and adoption that we all had to be connected. "https://rsc.byu.edu/vol-20-no-1-201...h-smiths-growing-understanding-eternal-family
    You still haven't explained your hatred. Is it the Church stance on homosexual acts? Or, adultery? Why do you have this heart full of hate that you assume things that you cannot prove. It's guilt that drives this sort of behavior.
     
  5. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    The age of consent was 7 in 1895 America. A single girl of 14 was an old maid.
     
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    Mary never did present her tokens of virginity.
     
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    TPTB = The Powers That Be.

    For instance = The Powers That BE (TPTB) make the rules.
     
  8. Joe knows

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    I’m not debating the law. I’m debating that he’s a pedophile and he was period. 14 to 37 is f’d up. He deserved to die. He should have been burned alive.

    the mob that tarred and feathered Joseph Smith was incited by El Johnson who's 12 year old sister had been sexually molested by Joseph Smith. Then he married a 14 year old at the age of 37. Guy was a trash bag. That religion is a joke and made completely around a mans penis.
     
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    Thanks much for reply!
     
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    Climate change.
     
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    Afghanistan!
     
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    That's quite phenominal, because he's dead.
    On another note, I need to pay my tithing, because I need some blessings.

    Even when I was on the run for like 4 years, I always paid my tithing, and I always had work.
    I was able to help a friend in need , while on the run, because I was blessed, because I tithed..
    It's one of those woven into the clockwork of this world things.

    I told his boy he could drink all the milk he wanted, and eat all the peanut butter he wanted, too. I bought it, and it's for you all.
    Did not ingratiate me with my friend's wife, but I bet that boy buys gallons of milk to this day.
    That bitch tried to be the milk Nazi, and I blew that right out of the water.
    He can have a bowl of cereal with milk up to the top if he wants.
     
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    I wonder if this round of mystical, miraculous insights has served to destroy his long held belief that mystical insights have any value whatsoever...
     
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    People that attack Joseph Smith act like he's still alive the the current President and Prophet of the Church. People try to use that stuff to discredit other Churches as well. There have been wicked and murderous Popes over the millennials. But, that doesn't mean the scriptures are false. That isn't why the Catholic Church isn't the "True" Church. If that were true, we would have to tear out the Book of Psalms since most of it was written after the fall of David. Look at the history of some of the apostles in the Bible. You would have to get rid of Paul's writings and so on. The Gospel of Jesus Christ is built on the doctrine of repentance with the Atonement of Jesus Christ at the foundation. We get the idea that Prophets have to be perfect people to receive revelation. Most people that have gone through the refiner's fire of repentance know that many times it's at their lowest points is when they receive the light of Christ and the influence of the Holy Ghost.
    In any event, "Sealings" meant something different in the times of Joseph Smith than they do now. There is no evidence that Joseph Smith had sexual relations with any underaged girls. There's more evidence he did not. Jeffers is a different story and church.
     
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    Most religions are based on sex, where the guy gets rewarded with a harem. Biblical Christianity is a little different in that it says that there are no marriages in the afterlife.

    Mark 12:25 (CEB) = "When people rise from the dead, they won’t marry nor will they be given in marriage. Instead, they will be like God’s angels."
     
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    And is this somehow some sort of defense or Joseph Smith’s actions?
     
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    Comprehension seems to be the order of the forum. Note the timeframe. When they are resurrected, not while on earth. Sealings (Eternal Marriage) is an ordinance that must be performed on earth, not in heaven. Now, read it again. Jesus simply wasn't going to be trapped by this nor any other traps. And, they tried to several times. All the work for those who have died must be performed in the Temples on this earth.
    As for the "Harem" comment, most Those who are Bishops, Elders, Deacons... are to have only one wife. When the Saints were practicing Polygamy, the percentage was very low. The actual numbers is unknown. Some say as low as 5% and some say 20%.
     
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    One of the published beliefs of Mormonism is that the guys will become gods, each with his own planet and harem and that he will churn out babies with his harem non-stop to populate his world. Will you be the straw or the cup?
     
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    The Doctrine that we can become gods and goddesses is true. Jesus himself said we are gods as he quoted Psalms 82:6. But, in that verse, it also says we are children of the Most High God (Father). He will always be our Father and we will always be His children, never greater than He. But, there is no mention of "harems" in this doctrine. So, you should be ashamed for spreading false rumors.

    Yes, we will increase in joy in our posterities. Those that attain the highest degree in the Celestial Kingdom of Glory will be able to have spirit children just like our Heavenly Parents did. We will have our own "mansions" that we will be their God. And so, our Father in Heaven's glory will continue to increase through all eternity.
     
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    Do you really think that one guy is going to churn out enough kids with one women to populate his planet? That would be hard for a termite queen to do.
     
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    If you are thinking in terms of earthy pregnancy and birth, no. But, that's not what we are talking about. We are talking about spirit children. Who knows what the process is. And, by the way, we are talking about possibly billions of earth type years. No time limitations with eternity. Time is just another one of those earthly things.
     
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    The nice things about imaginary deities and situations is that you can craft them to suit your needs so you never get any wrong answers. Years ago, con men came up with all sorts of religious fairy tales and gullible people liked them because it made their miserable lives endurable. So, the con men gained power, status, and wealth at the expense of their superstitious buddies. Today, you accept the lies because you have been indoctrinated in them all of your life. We see such things happening every day in the political area. You trust the fairy tale and disregard your own common sense. You have no idea how the fairy tale came to be part of your conscious but you love it because it gives you a certain amount of emotional comfort. I suppose we all need that to one degree or another but you should never, ever, think that it is reality. It is all imaginary.
     
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    The only conmen today are atheists. It's nice to know that God speaks to us again through present day Prophets to know more things than we get from the Bible.
     
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    Thanks for the daily joke.
     
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    God speaks to us again through the Prophet of God in Salt Lake City. He also can speak to us personally through the Gift of the Holy Ghost because we have the authority on earth again to give to people. Only to those who exercise faith, hope and charity.
     

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