Sorry Liberals, But The Nazis Were Progressive Leftists

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  1. Pixie

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    The UN is not a policeman of the world. Members still retain full sovereignty.
    It is far more about agreeing standards of social behaviour and highlighting where they are not upheld.
    The strength of the UN lies in agreement about international issues such as asylum rules and marine laws.
    It's original purpose was to define a post war western/global understanding about how to prevent what had happened and to set a high standard of communal behaviour.
    What they cannot do is insist on it. That is a sovereign issue.
    It can also point the way to where international investment can go by highlighting what is going on there.
    Today the most active parts include a peace keeping force, huge support for education and health in poor areas and as a definition of human rights against which judgements can be made.
    It is what is known as a soft power, but its early conventions stand as a model for national values, including the USA. They cannot prevent revolutions but can influence law such that they are far more difficult to accomplish.
    IMO it's use is measured by what kind of a world would it be if it weren't there.
     
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    List the states you say take the most money in welfare. Or just the top 10 is fine.

    Then underneath it list the 10 states with the highest percentage of minority population.

    And show us what you get.
     
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    :applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:

    Hear, hear

    That's among the best overall statements of the UN's Mission I've yet seen. The one thing you've (necessarily) left out is that it is emphatically NOT a world government, even an incipient one. Possibly the UN's most basic principle is that if you're in the UN your country is your own, even if you're an aggressive overseas provincializer as Portugal was throughout the 60s and 70s in Africa while the UN could (rightly) do nothing but watch.
     
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    Sigh. It’s a shame people like you think I can’t back up my claims because you can’t back up yours.

    Democrats demanding an expansion of the courts
    https://www.c-span.org/video/?521766-1/democratic-efforts-expand-supreme-court

    The FBI paid Dashenko until 2020 after KNOWING his information was fraudulent
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gr...or-danchenko-source-during-trump-russia-probe

    Danchenko’s source was a paid democrat operative
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...lan-steele-dossier-igor-danchenko-indictment/

    And I already sourced how the democrat platform is predicated on identity politics but I’m happy to do it again if you’d like.

    So no sir. You are the one living in a fairy tale world of your own making. I source my claims.
     
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    So then the UN Declaration of Human rights is meaningless, has no authority and is in no way enforceable.

    So, again, why should we care what the UN says?
     
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    in Germany in the late 1800s, occult belief systems became prevalent and had their own periodicals, hitler is known to have had an entire collection of some of these, they are for all intents and purposes the same as todays Q-anon, early Nazis did infact recruit people using the word "socialism", but Hitler came to an agreement with the "junker" businesmen class and the Prussian military elite and threw the "socialist" nazi leader ernst roehm out and killed hundreds of the "socialist" branch of the nazi party in the "night of the long knives" in 1934, hitler compared bolsheviks or "communists" to Jews over and over, lastly the big lie stems from joe goebels...the RW version of much history is like one of those small condensed comic book versions, many misleading highpoints with no regard for substance
     
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    False. Ernst Rohm was gotten rid of due to his sympathies for the communist. The same reason those other socialists were purged. Hitler was NOT against socialism. However Hitler DESPISED communists. A large chunk of his Nazi socialist party were sympathetic to the commies and wanted a system closer to communist ideology. Whereas Hitler did not. Hitler wanted a national socialist policy. A socialist policy that benefitted his nations peoples and NOONE else. That is in DIRECT contradiction to the type of socialist/communism ideology Ernst was pushing. Hence his purge.
     
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    well he thru out roehm, before he murdered him, roehm wanted his brown shirts to replace the Prussian elite army, but this is nit-picking when the entire premise of calling the nazis, leftists is just BS
     
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    We demand that the state be charged first with providing the opportunity for a livelihood and way of life for the citizens. If it is impossible to sustain the total population of the State, then the members of foreign nations (non-citizens) are to be expelled from the Reich.

    10. The first obligation of every citizen must be to work both spiritually and physically. The activity of individuals is not to counteract the interests of the universality, but must have its result within the framework of the whole for the benefit of all

    13. We demand the nationalization of all (previous) associated industries (trusts).

    14. We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries.

    15. We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.

    16. We demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation, immediate communalisation of the great warehouses and their being leased at low cost to small firms, the utmost consideration of all small firms in contracts with the State, county or municipality.

    17. We demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the freeexpropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, the abolition of taxes on land and prevention of all speculation in land.

    18. We demand struggle without consideration against those whose activity is injurious to the general interest. Common national criminals, usurers, Schieber and so forth are to be punished with death, without consideration of confession or race.


    Sounds pretty damn leftist to me except maybe the needing to work as your duty part.
     
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    there is no modern equivalent to the "hitler youth" from todays left or right and this was a core component, so i am not to worried yet
     
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    you do understand the difference between political rhetoric and political reality, dont you? hitler in reality was financed by bankers and businessmen and got rid of Unions, and much of the "nazi economic" miracle has been found was just flim flam economics
     
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    I do but I also recognize he instituted all of those policies under the third Reich. So to assert he didn’t put those policies in place simply isn’t accurate. He did put them in place. The reason the left hates him is that he then proceeded to use that economic policy to murder his own people.

    But if the left is honest today, most of them would have no problem with it if it were “extremist whites” on the end of the chopping block. Just like the Germans didn’t have a problem with it being “extremist Jews” on the chopping block.
     
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    i am an old fashioned "leftists" the left has always admitted malcontents, and just about anybody, the left does not "tow a party line" specifically, if you only compare the extremists from both sides you wont get far, my fondest wish is for people to use the internet as a tool for education in divisive matters to come to an understanding, i discovered decades ago the negativity of hatered
     
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    That’s fair and I appreciate the honesty.

    But when your party moves from the party of supporting equality for all to being the party that decries white privilege, asserts all the ills in society are due to white people and that any white person who doesn’t support their “anti-white supremacy” agenda is a white supremacist themselves and an enemy of the state and advocates for policies which benefit their chosen groups at the expense and exclusion of whites… In other words engaging in the EXACT same type of verbiage and policy Hitler used in regards to the early period of dehumanization of the Jewish population…

    You probably need to reevaluate which party you belong to.
     
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    my party left me when bill clinton signed the republican initiated NAFTA policy and became republican lite, i recognize extremism within my party and dont necessarily support it, hitler merely exploited an occult belief system already gainig traction in the late 1800s comparable to the anti-semitc base child molester based Q-anon of today
     
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    if you want reputation to go away, you might want to stop voting for politicians that support sexual indoctrination of children in the classroom.
    You call it "Q" because you can't accept that is based on facts (some of it loosely) but FACTS nonetheless
     
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    Actually, you have proven to live in a fantasy world given that you actually expect everything to be the way your mind suggests it should be. Reality is missing from your brain.
     
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    whatever you say, i dont need to "debate" "true believers"
     
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    That sounds like something a kid would say when they have no rebuttal.
    What's your next post gonna be? "I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I"?
     
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    you stated Q is losely based on facts, and i reply, of course most good BS is...there feel better
     
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    Jesus Christ. You don’t change the makeup of the court because you don’t like the decisions they’re coming out with and you’d rather increase the number and then pack the court with your chosen stooges. FFS we already have a literal Affirmative Action judge on the scotus. We don’t need any more of your political cronies on the court. And we damn sure don’t need them because you packed it because you want to undermine the concept of checks and balances you were extolling the virtues of earlier.

    It’s not a rumor it’s a fact that he AND THE FBI has admitted to in court.

    And you don’t think it’s a problem for the FBI to be PAYING an individual for information which they KNEW to be false… ESPECIALLY when the source they were getting their information was not from a foreign national but from a democrat operative feeding him lies about their political opposition whom they were competing against in an election? And then using that information to initiate an unconstitutional spying operation on an incoming president whom they were trying to beat in an election.

    Are you ****ing kidding me right now?
     
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    the problem of the RW supreme court justices lies in their "originalist" interpretations of the founders who were men of the "enlightened" period whose philosophy accepted and approved of using the best knowledge available recognizing mans growing wisdom, and NOT limiting it to the 1700s, they actually deny and dishonor our founders
     
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    I have just explained that.
    What you understood is a completely different thing.
     
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    They are still doing a good job upholding their Nazi roots

     
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    there is a whole thread on the Berkley students, and much is based on comparing Semites and Zionists as one and the same, they are not the same thing, please read up that
     

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