South Koreans Are Pleading for a Breakthrough in the US–North Korea Talks

The only way peace will happen on the Korean peninsula is for the US to end its imperialist policies towards North Korea. Many in South Korea realize this. Probably everyone except Americans realizes this on some level.

 

What are the imperialist policies? Not saying they don't exist, but what are they? You mean economic sanctions?

 

Option 1: leave the Koreans alone
Option 2: invade

 

I will take a crack at this answer if you don't mind:

What were "Imperialist Policies"?

In the past, it was using the most modern power structure, which was usually warfare, to take advantage of that area for it's own purposes.

Today's "imperialists" are the International Banks, they run basically the entire world and they use their most powerful weapon to control the will of the people and basically get what they want.

MEDIA

Through the use of media, they have been able to use the worlds most powerful military to invade nation after nation after nation.

Libya, Iraq, Syria, Lebenon, Ukraine, Serbia .... not to mention the Arab Spring states which are now understood to have gone through this because of US/International Banking policies. All these nations are to try to control "the gold of today", what is "the gold of today"? All you have to do is look into what the currency we use is ...

The Petro Dollar Or more specifically, Petrol (oil)

In order to control "the gold of today" just like the banks did with actual gold in the past, they have devised two schemes.

1 - Climate Change
The environment is an issue we need to worry about, but most the plastics and trash we are coming up with. The world is getting greener with more CO2, eventually it will be a problem, but right now it's not. BUT, this does give them an easy control arm, to take over The Wests carbon (oil) supply and allow consumption as they see fit. You will notice that they don't attack non Western nations with this attack. In actuality, they are getting rid of "The West's CO2" by giving it to "dirtier" producers around the world.

2 - Terrorism
By creating terrorism, and yes, International Bankers lead the US military into most of these areas, they are able to create and control the main streams of oil ... or so they thought. Look at the nations they have taken over, they literally create a map from Saudi Arabia to Europe. THEY ARE TRYING TO CONTROL THE OIL. Their biggest issue is shale oil in North America, they never thought it would be so prevalant and they have no means of controlling it. So .... they attack it, they try to destroy it. All so they can stop having "Oil in the West" and go buy other people's oil around the nation. But carbon wise? It's the same, actually fracking is less CO2 because gas is cleaner than oil, but they don't care, it's not about CO2, it's about power and control.

"So what does this have to do with North Korea? Didn't you just go WAY off topic Draco?"

Let's come back full circle, I think this article is a perfect way of tying it together before I go on.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/north-...-evading-sanctions-buying-oil-selling-n981821

On top of above, the International Bankers needs a boogie man, in a similar fashion to Iran, someone to scare the public into spending more and more into defense. As well as making people think "well gosh, the world is bad, look at the middle East, look at North Korea! WE NEED TO BUY MORE WEAPONS!!!!"

And now .... our military does it's thing, the oil companies do their thing, the defense companies do their thing and the media companies do their thing to make sure we are all on their train of thought.

And what happens the whole time?

The International Bankers hold onto more and more debt ..... charging more and more interest.

 

We came off "the gold standard" in the mid 1970's, see a pattern?

https://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/.../Debt Ceiling History-thumb-570x314-49343.png

 

Exactly. "Threats" are the standard tactic from Washington and has been so ever since the end of WW II. If you really want peace I doubt very much that a threatening stance is a way to achieve it. Of course, if you want to maintain your presence and the weapons industry is your main economic meal ticket then keeping up the tension and fear is the best thing to do. But I think we are talking about "peace on the Korean peninsula", right?

 

South Koreans may talk a good virtue-signalling reunification talk, but the last thing they want is 25 million uneducated, brainwashed dirt-poor North Koreans streaming south and banging their begging bowls on the streets of every city and town in South Korea, and that's exactly what would happen if the DMZ was thrown open.

This isn't a matter of like the 1960s-era communist East Germany meets the free Germany of the 1990s when the Berlin Wall fell. In Korea, it would be more like the Jetsons get invaded and overrun by droves of tens of millions of the Flintstones. It'd be nothing short of a disaster of cultural shock on a mass scale.

The LAST people on the planet who want that is the South Koreans.

 

If all of the US troops left there tomorrow, Fat Kim would be threatening them with destruction every day.

Imperialistic? What a bullshit analogy.

 

Is there no option to engage peacefully with them through trade and diplomacy?

 

Start with the decision by US war planners in the aftermath of WWII to arbitrarily divide the Korean peninsula into northern and southern halves. What was once a united Korea was carved up by US occupiers, which resulted in the creation of the very nation which the US now demonizes. How's that for irony?

Then you can proceed from there and trace the US policy of expansionism and aggression through its Southern Korean proxy, Syngman Rhee, who was effectively a dictator that engaged in murderous oppression of any South Korean who was left of Hitler. And contrary to imperialist propaganda, the South Korean government was every bit as guilty of instigating the Korean war as the North was. Rhee openly spoke about invading and conquering the north. The north simply preempted his expansionist fantasies.

The US response to this was to bomb North Korea back into the stone age, and to march US forces right up to the Chinese border. This was a very stupid mistake which resulted in a tidal wave of Maoist soldiers pouring over the Yangtze river and repulsing the US advance all the way back to the 38th parallel. Still, the damage was done. North Korea was utterly destroyed by US bombing. Virtually every standing structure in the country was reduced to rubble. General Curtis Lemay estimated that 20% of the North Korean population was killed.

Gee, I wonder why North Korea's economy is so underdeveloped? Could it have something to do with their entire country being destroyed and then sanctioned by the world's most powerful military?

If you want a more detailed examination of the terrors inflicted on North Korea during the Korean war, then I would recommend the following:

https://theintercept.com/2017/05/03...e-us-one-reason-they-remember-the-korean-war/

 

Heavily infected conspiracy theories pacient here

 

An excellent response.

 

There has been peaci on the Korean peninsula for decades. What is missing is cooperation. If the South Koreans want move things forward, they should consider attacking North Korea.

 

What happened to our greatest evah negotiator president?

 

He strolled across the DMZ.



Obama would've actually earned his sham Nobel Prize if he'd done that.

 

Always with the excuses where are the results of the man that claimed he was a great negotiator, the best, he is beautiful when it comes to being a negotiator and if you have not noticed Oblama is not the president...Whataboutisms are for losers..

 

Trump walked into North Korea.

There's no whataboutism there.

He did that, no other President did that.

 

Well, I am surprised he didn't use a golf cart but, it accomplished nothing. C'est la vie..

 

Two guys with bad hair sense..

 

That's your assessment of the situation? A keen eye for global politics you got there.

 

Which policy is imperialist?

 

The cold hard reality is that nothing will fix North Korea. The Kim family is in charge, for the indefinite future.

Furthermore, it is in their self interest to have (or at least project) military force, including with nukes.

A nuke going off in Seoul or Tokyo is a red line for pretty much every nation and IGO on Earth. Mutually assured destruction works, it is the basis of the modern geopolitical order. Kim knows if he has this capability he is untouchable forever. We don't even want regime change under those terms, it's too risky.

NK's endgame is cold war, enforced through MAD.

No President is going to change this. Not Trump, not Obama, not George f@@@ing Washington.

 

Well then. Maybe it's time to pull out of Korea too and let them spend some of that wealth to take responsibility for their own defense. But if we do, I wouldn't doubt that the north will prevail either militarily or politically and I won't be getting any new Sonata's made in Korea.

 

To bad Trump didn’t realize that before he bragged about being such a super genius.

 

This should be a movie.