State trooper who told off Inslee over vaccine mandate dies from COVID

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Agreed that this might be ignorant/moronic in certain cases .. such as the immune compromized. What is equally ignorant is taking a vax that has a far greater chance of harming you than helping you .. such as in the case of a healthy males 16-29 - doubly so for those that have had covid previously.
     
  2. Condor060

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    More fake information that you just made up.
    The FDA knows the acceptable levels of NDMA is 96 nanograms per day. They know levels higher than that cause cancer.
    They found Zantax to have 3,000,000 nanograms per dose.

    And Zantax isn't the first drug to be pulled for excessive NDMA. In 2018 Valsartan recalled drugs for the same problem.

    All EPA studies verified that animals exposed to the chemical develop tumors in the liver, blood vessels, kidneys and respiratory tract and that NDMA is a human carcinogen.

    Your alleged theory just got bashed on the rocks of reality.

    Still running from the question? Can't back up the BS about Conservatives making threads laughing at people dying from vaccinations or Covid?
    Thats what I thought. So you keep running.


    Sorry this isn't about you and your alleged personal attacks. Its about how the left celebrates the death of a law enforcement officer over their own political Covid BS.

    The people (like yourself) whine over the pedophile and rapist who were killed in Kenosha. Go figure.

    And of course his occupation isn't relevant to you because you wouldn't have a clue whats required to wear any uniform in the service of others.
    So you go ahead a laugh away. You only expose your own mentality when you do.
     
  3. Condor060

    Condor060 Banned Donor

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    Maintenance drugs are prescriptions commonly used to treat conditions that are considered chronic or long-term.

    Zantax isn't a maintenance drug, went through the process, and now is recalled after 10 years of use for causing cancer.
    Vaccines are not maintenance drugs but are required to go through the same system to be approved

    So much for your maintenance drug theory
     
  4. LangleyMan

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    The unvaccinated are filling up our hospitals, risking the lives of medical staff caring for them and depriving other people of care they need. Whining crybabies go on about their "rights" while they continue wasting tens of billions on the idiotic "war on drugs," even locking up people for ingesting marijuana.
     
  5. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    You're telling me the "mask" I wear is ineffective against covid?

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  6. LangleyMan

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    You folks and your "rights." You're the same people who have been cheerleaders for locking up people for smoking pot.
     
  7. LangleyMan

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    You don't know how vaccines work.
     
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    people used it as a Maintenance drug
     
  9. LangleyMan

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    The unvaccinated are helping keep the pandemic going. Are they prepared to take precautions against catching and then spreading covid? I don't see it.
     
  10. MJ Davies

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    Yes, I understand that position.

    However, we can't bully people into what we think is most appropriate for their lives. Therefore, if we want to retain our own rights and freedoms, we need to acknowledge they have ever right to do that according to how they see fit.

    If somebody broke your front door and held you down and forcible stabbed you with a needle for the "good of the whole", would you see that as a violation of your right to choose what you put in your body? I'm going to guess your answer is "yes".

    Guilt-tripping, threats of termination or threats of eviction, public scorn, shunning and all the negative things we do to people we want to control in some way doesn't make that argument valid.

    The reality is you don't know (I don't know, nobody but the actual person knows) why people choose to not get vaccinated and since there is no test to determine who is actually vaccinated, mandates only serve to create a black market for vaccination verifications. Those were in the works before the pharmaceutical reps had the signed paperwork to work on the vaccines.
     
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    Well, stupidity may be involved because the risk associated with getting covid—don't forget "long covid" and organ damage—is far greater than the risk from the vaccine.
    Wrong, again. There is some protection against getting covid and therefore less chance of passing it on.
    Your son might be better off listening to a doctor.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Purposeful Ignorance then?
     
  13. Condor060

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    Maintenance drugs are prescriptions commonly used to treat conditions that are considered chronic or long-term.
    Zantax isn't a prescription drug or used long term. Its an over the counter heartburn medication.

    But at least we know you don't know what a maintenance drug is
     
  14. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    How can you choose to not know something without knowing it?
     
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    Sure don't! I'm just going off what we were all told they would do in 2020 ;)
     
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    Never seen any data supporting this claim .. and you give no numbers - Like I do .. every time

    Floor is yours
    I said no significant difference in transmission - and cited a number of studies.. running round crying "Wrong Wrong Wrong" followed by unsupported claim .. doesn't cut it.
    You mean like his anti Vaxer Step-dad ? who happens to be a doctor .. but in general .. definitely better off listening to the subject matter experts .. than a doctor .. clearly you are out of your depth .. apealing to an authority - that's not even an authority ..

    Lots of doctors and experts lining up on opposite sides of the fence -- so prove your vacuous unsupported claims - numbers por favor.

    Show me how the risk of "Organ damage" from Omicron (or even Delta and we can factor in Omnicron later for a giggle) . .. is greater than the risk of harm from myocarditis from Pfizer vax .. Conservatively -- at 1 in 10,000 for healthy male who has had covid previously 16-29.

    Lets see the numbers - floor is yours :) ..
     
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    :roll:
    Propaganda, I can tell by the ridiculous derailing about war on drugs and eating MARIJUANA
     
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    I think we can insist they participate in some way to help to deal with covid. Going unvaccinated and showing up often in "places with faces" is unacceptable.
    As long as covid is around, the unvaccinated can stay home. We can afford to make exceptions for the few unvaccinated with medical reasons to stay unvaccinated.
    These are legit.
    Get caught selling fake vaccination certificates? Ten years.
     
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    OK. Again, how do you propose to know who is and is not vaccinated?
    That idea looks great on paper. How do you propose we do that in real-life practical applications?

    My former neighbor and her equally vile boyfriend tested positive and were quarantined by the Department of Health. We all knew that because there is a document on the person's front door. They did anything and everything except stay inside including using all the washers and dryers, (without wiping them down with disinfectants), not wearing masks and letting their homeless friends sneak in through the back door in the middle of the night. No doubt those wonderful visitors were all COVID+ as well. Meanwhile, she shaved her head because she had lice.

    Fortunately, I own enough clothing and dry clean only items that I could stop using the laundry room. She has been evicted but I just pay someone to pick up my items and manage that.
    They may be popular, but they aren't legit.
    The last part is the easy part. The first part...not so much.
     
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    And now you have to gloat about it just be sure to keep it classy.

    Did you know that there are some people that actually had the vaccine but are against mandating it? Did you know that there are people who actually had the vaccine and believe it works that are against mandating it?

    No in your mind they're all anti vaxxers aren't they?

    It's exactly this unreasonable in this why the country is divided. And it won't ever end until you get a grip.
     
  21. Arkanis

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    I opened this thread about an anti-vax guy who took early retirement because he refused the vaccine and went to Fox to brag about it.

    If he were still alive, he might be a nice symbol of freedom for conservatives.

    But since he's dead, it shows he was wrong.

    It's not much more complicated than that.
     
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    President elect Biden stood by and listened to Vice President elect Harris bad mouthing the vaccine before it was available. He never said a word. A year later he frustrated people would question the efficacy of the same vaccine his VP told people do not get.
     
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    No it's not complicated. You created a thread to mock someone for dying because that's what people who disagree with you deserve.

    It's okay go ahead and throw your goulish little party maybe one day you'll get to be happy.
     
  24. Arkanis

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    Yet, there is a simple way for anti-vaxers to avoid my mockery: stay alive.
     
  25. Polydectes

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    Nobody cares what you mock we've all seen what you cheer for.

    You can relish in your own hatred all you want. Maybe one day you'll find satisfaction in it.
     

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