State trooper who told off Inslee over vaccine mandate dies from COVID

Strawman fallacy. Whataboutism.

 

Fox has made him a disposable tool of its anti-vax propaganda.

Laura Ingraham will never have the courage to tell her listeners that he died only a few months after the interview.

 

Where did I claim to be conservative? I didn't hence your remark is irrelevant.

 

No, I am not. Try again.

 

Pfff.
https://medicalpartnership.usg.edu/...98-to-99-of-americans-dying-are-unvaccinated/

What you got, Condor, is fakebook "truths".

 

Lol…nonsense. It’s an inconvenient truth that the right likes to ignore.

 

I agree. Your comments are far right, not conservative.

 

No, he died like a fool believing tinfoil hat nonsense from the antivax crowd.

 

Where did I allege you were conservative? And my comment is relevant because you, not me were the one who raised the issue of whataboutism when clearly, as I explained my previous response my position was that comments like that were unacceptable regardless of ones position on the political spectrum

 

oh! Ye Gods but it is refreshing to read a post like this. Unfortunately for most of the right seem to think “peer review” means someone sat on a jetty and read it

 

Their lungs are superior that they can cope with wearing masks 24/7. It's genetics.


You know what always grinded my gears.
That people at the top of their lungs are able to yell that they got a medical exception for wearing masks, because they can't breath with one on.
Like, if you can scream that hard, there obviously is nothing wrong with your lungs... but do go on yell that it's a problem.

 

if your idea here is that the control group had been vaccinated, then understand that comorbids and covid 19 have ALWAYS gone hand in hand even before the vaccine was globally rolled out.

https://newsrescue.com/cdc-data-70-...comorbid-medical-conditions-97-had-2-or-more/

https://www.cdc.gov/pcd/issues/2021/pdf/21_0123.pdf

Results

Among 4,899,447 hospitalized patients in PHD-SR, 540,667 (11.0%) patients met the study inclusion criteria for COVID-19 (Table 1). Of patients hospitalized with COVID-19, 94.9% had at least 1 documented underlying CCSR condition, 249,522 (46.2%) had an ICU admission, 76,680 (14.2%) received IMV, and 80,174 (14.8%) died. The study sample included 261,078 (48.3%) female patients, 94,670 (17.5%) non-Hispanic Black patients, and 93,171 (17.2%) Hispanic or Latino patients. The median age was 66 years, and the most common insurance types were Medicare (292,978 [54.2%]) and commercial (130,995 [24.2%]). The 863 hospitals visited by patients included in the study were distributed across all US Census regions.

A study dated march 30 2020 (so BEFORE the vaccine roll out) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7314621/

It has been concluded that the older the patients are, the more likely they are to succumb to the COVID-19 disease. In the USA, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) uses COVID-NET in 14 states to monitor the demographics of COVID-19 patients who are being hospitalized [6]. From March 1 through 30, 2020, there were a total of 180 patients on COVID-NET, of which 89.3% of the patients had an underlying comorbidity [6]. Of the 180 patients, 94.4% aged 65 years and older had at least comorbidity [6]. The most common comorbidities found were obesity, hypertension, and diabetes mellitus [6]. The purpose of this paper is to review these comorbidities, given that most patients with severe COVID-19 cases had comorbidity. Furthermore, we would like to examine specific comorbidities in relation to the COVID-19 disease progression and outcomes based on the literature report since the outbreak.

Only thing you torpedoed was yourself. Thanks for playing.

 

Wrong. Try again.

My comments are correct and insightful......you're welcome.

 

LOL! Then why offer to show me conservatives posts? That makes no sense.

 

Oh my. It's not their statement. You are copy-pasting from an article, and you are STILL misinterpreting the statement about the 2.5 million enrolled.

2.5m. is the number of people enrolled at Maccabi and therefore in their database and NOT the number of people enrolled in the study. Maccabi is a healthcare services provider. The 2.5m people in its database are its CUSTOMERS. The study was granted access to this database and used only a fraction - 76,279 to be exact - of these customer records, redacted.

It divided them into three groups. This is where the 32,000 people in your copy-paste comes from. Of the 76,279 records, 32,430 were used for Group 1. And of these, the study's conclusions about infection and symptomatic infection were based on only 257 and 199 records respectively.

You would know all this if you had actually read it. You would also know, if you understood the significance of the fact that it is a pre-print, that - like every other pre-print - it should NOT be considered valid or reliable.

 

And what you got is yet another fake Associated press release you thought was a medical claim?
You thought a new data analysis from The Associated Press was your new meter for medical facts huh.
That figures

The very same Associated press (On August 23) distributed an article claiming Mississippi’s Poison Control Center was swamped with calls from people who’d taken Ivermectin. The article alleged 70% of the calls taken recently by the center were Ivermectin-related. It was an alarming story; the only problem was it bore no relation to the truth. In fact, according to Mississippi State Epidemiologist Dr. Paul Byers, the real figure is just 2% – and over two-thirds of those are from people who’d taken livestock worming tablets, rather than actual medical versions meant for humans.

The same Associated Press was forced to delete a factually inaccurate tweet that promoted a lie about the NRA which originated from far-left Parkland activists.

The same Associated press that earned this title in 2018
Associated Press Becomes Fake News Factory
For their other fake stories like U.S. Army reservists and recruits who enlisted in the military with a promised path to citizenship are being abruptly discharged” by the Trump administration.

Along with another fake story they were caught with about migrant children as young as 14 housed at a juvenile detention center in Virginia say they were beaten while handcuffed and locked up for long periods in solitary confinement,” the AP’s Michael Biuesecker tweeted on June 21, adding, “left nude and shivering in concrete cells.

Its no wonder you had to use the AP as you could never produce ANYTHING from ANY medical staff making such an idiotic claim.
But its no wonder where you get your information from. Now we all get it.

 

You can't honestly make that claim.

The important thing is not how many years in your life but how much life in your years.

 

Its the claim from the study, not my opinion

The study, conducted in one of the most highly COVID-19–vaccinated countries in the world, examined medical records of tens of thousands of Israelis, charting their infections, symptoms, and hospitalizations between 1 June and 14 August, when the Delta variant predominated in Israel. It’s the largest real-world observational study so far to compare natural and vaccine-induced immunity to SARS-CoV-2

In one analysis, comparing more than 32,000 people in the health system, the risk of developing symptomatic COVID-19 was 27 times higher among the vaccinated, and the risk of hospitalization eight times higher.

And from those 32,000, 238 vaccinated were reinfected vs only 19 who were pre infected. It was never a group of 238 isolated from the 32,000 as you tried to claim.

And the study proves that pre infected have better immunity than the vaccinated. Or from the same 32,000, you would have had huge numbers of reinfected individuals that were never given the vaccine.

 

I realize you were trying to make him look bad.

 

other then this, what do you remember him for?

 

He served his community and thought for himself. I don't know what other conditions he had of it the vaccine would have made a difference. Maybe it could have helped. I have zero respect for those using his death for "I told you so" purposes. Some people died after taking the vaccine. Its their body and their choice.

Some people fear death to the point of never living.

 

he went public with his refusal to take the vaccine, thus that is what he will be remembered by for most

some people fear needles to the point of dying from a virus with a vaccine available

 

He was right to object to mandates.

Many more went public pushing the vaccine. Did he gloat when people died after taking it? Its not enough that people parade their schadenfreude, they also use terms like "antivaxxers" and "afraid of needles" to parade their ignorance as well.

Where did you get that he was afraid of needles?

 

never said he was, that was a reply to "Some people fear death to the point of never living."

 

I'm sure his family would rather he died unvaccinated than live vaccinated....

Vaccines are one of the foundations of our civilization.

Without them, we would still be living like in the Middle Ages.

Blaming vaccines for anything is an incredible display of ignorance.

But then again, some people believe that Bill Gates injects us with microchips, others believe that the earth is flat, etc.