Stock Market picks???

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  1. wgabrie

    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'm really bad at investing in stocks. I only lost money on the stock market. So, I haven't done anything with the stock market for years, almost a decade now.

    But I was thinking maybe a good investment strategy would involve buying stock of companies who are working on Quantum Computers. This would, I think, be the next big revolution in tech. Microsoft, D-Wave, Intel, ect. all make good choices for a long-term investment. One of these companies is going to be a breakaway success.
     
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    In my opinion there's a difference between investment and speculation.

    Investment involves putting money into the market on a regular basis in a diversified portfolio to spread the risk across time and across stocks.

    Speculation involves picking individual stocks that your reckon and going to do well and making a one-off investment.

    My view is that while investment can reasonably be expected to yield results in the long term, speculation is the equivalent of betting on the horses.
     
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    Hotdogr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Look up FCNTX, and look at it's performance history. It's heavily invested in tech.

    Now is a good time to jump in, tech took a beating last week.
     
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    Market Junkie Well-Known Member

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    I still love Microsoft.

    Nadella has done a great job at the top after taking over for dead-weight Ballmer.

    Over the past five years tech and health care have been the best-performing sectors in the S&P 500.

    I'm betting heavily that they'll continue to be the top performers over the next decade.

    My health care allocation is evenly split between VHCIX and FHCIX, both terrific funds.

    About 75% of my tech money is in VITAX, with the rest in FSCSX.
     
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    What I do is invest in a general market ETF like one that follows the S&P 500. You don't even have to follow the S&P 500 or Nasdaq specifically, because these just follow a group of companies that that group is a bit arbitrary.

    Another thought is that if you have settled down somewhere, then a great investment is a house, and get one that is cheaper so you can pay it down quickly with little interest.
     
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    Have you noticed that when the stock market crashed in 2009 and it was at the bottom (in retrospect), that was when a majority of people, media, etc. were reflecting their greatest fears and their aversion to the market? My own wife was frantic. We had gotten out of stocks at the top because I saw it coming. But then it crashed and my wife, in a frenzy when the market was in the bottom regions in 2009, stressed "I don't want ANYTHING to do with any stocks of the stock market after seeing this crash!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

    I told her it was time to get back in and she went ballistic.

    Then the market climbed for ten years. Have you noticed that when a top is approaching, that is when people start to clamor that "if we don't get in now, we might miss this whole thing!!!!!!" People did that with home buying in 2007-8 at the top of the housing boom just before it crashed.

    Fear and greed. That's what drives all this. And people act on it, and that's why so many people only lose.

    When you feel the greatest fear about the market, THAT is when you should notice the fear and jump INTO the market. And then, when you feel the most elated and optimistic about the market, THAT is when you should be selling out.

    I recently filled up on bear funds.
     
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    Dont do it, just wait. Another year, or dow at 10k - 15k and then go all in on the market.
    If you dont mind risk, you can play some biotechs now, or even gold STOCKS. Gold will continue up for a few years into the recession.
     
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    My, those bears are takin' it on the chin so far this year...
     
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    It may go on for another 3 months, by the end of the year it will all be down 25%. Unless the FED lies, cuts rates, and start chat about not tightening, which is all just more KICK THE CAN...
    Listen to Jeffrey Gundlach -------- he knows the truth, debt, fiscal policy is ****, and we are headed into a garbage pit of stock debt ! Sideways until they make a move and as usual, Wall Street will control the FED, who controls the DEBT, which controls the market and all of our up coming problems.
     
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    Damn, Quad, you bears got smashed again this week.

    Gunna have to rent a U-Haul if I decide to take some profits later this month... $ 8) $
     
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    Damn, bears are getting their asses handed to them BIG TIME by Mr. Market so far this year.

    The 500 is up nearly 11% year-to-date.

    And my biggest tech position (VITAX) is up nearly 14%.

    This is almost as good having you own personal money-printing machine, Quad... :thumbsup:
     
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    What in heaven's name does Economics have to do with picking stocks ... ?
     
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    You are investing in a "market" that is the least unfair of any in America.

    Were healthcare provided fairly, it would be under government control ...
     
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    Well, as the economy goes, there goes the stocks.
     
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    Market Junkie Well-Known Member

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    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/m...o-record-high-2019-06-07?mod=mw_theo_homepage


    And the love affair continues... :heart: :thumbsup: $$$
     
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    It's no love-affair.

    The consequence is attributable to a single factor. The US does not know how to break up "Trusts" despite the fact that the laws have been on the books for more than a century!

    [​IMG]

    Nothing changes. Life goes on - the Rich get Immensely Richer and the poor can go to hell ...
     
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    At my age, I'm not trying to make it big. I'm just buying ETFs or giving my money to people who play the entirety of world markets. I'm looking for retirement income. The ETFs that I am buying are limited to preferred stocks. But then, I pick my price. Now is not the time to buy that stuff.
     
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    This will go on for much longer. Knowing which stocks will be difficult. Here is the Thesis : http://quillian.net/blog/take-this-rally-very-seriously/

    This guy tells the truth and like he writes "The Truth is a hard sell" The investment Bankers using past #s, past sell and buy signs are getting pounded no matter which way they go. The XIONIST LED FED, and Big 5 investment banks, friends of friends network are taking every last dime if you are not PART OF their team. Thus, Mnuchin, with Powell, Goldman, JP Morgan, and the others will now work behind closed doors to PROP the market for their own benefit. We are now beyond a Plutocracy and into regime change, the Money leaders run it, dont care to live by the rules, change the rules for their own benefit and if you complain, go to JAIL under the regimes Military style POLICE force. Who, will be paid very well to Squash you.

    Trump is just an offshoot of their team, a guy that is fully manipulated and spreads hate, they have him under control through Jared.
     
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    Market Junkie got it right, it will continue this way as long as TRUMP allows Mnuchin and the FED to PROP the market. They will print money and hand it the banks back door, we are now out of the loop. 401ks are worthless entities too, just a trickle of money goes in, and the fees compounded to make them even richer.
    The GREED is off the chart and they only compete with each other to see who win umong themselves. Funneling money to the HOMELAND to prop it up as well. Adding mass debt to Our country and the ONLY country in the WORLD without DEBT ? Israel...

    This will all end in 20 or 30 years, but between now and then, life will be a struggle, stealing, poverty, huge depression and yet the Rich are shielded in the gated utopias... in 20 years you will wish you had what you have today.
     
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