Strange no news from the MSM about a second British baby's life saved.

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  1. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Everyone knows how socialize medicine let baby Charlie die in England. What the MSM hasnt reported was there is a second baby the National Health Service (socialized medicine) refused to help. This second baby had tumors in his heart, and the NHS refused to work on him, meaning they were condemning him to death just like Charley.
    After his parents started a go fund me page and raised part of the money they relented and allowed him to be taken to Boston where doctors did the surgery and the boy is making a full recovery.

    And people in this country think that government socialize medicine is wonderful. Well except like in England some are left to die needlessly.
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I really didnt expect the left to join in this thread. It destroys the BS of wonderful government medicine.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They love their death panels.

    They believe the government should be allowed to say who lives and dies.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah, much better to have all kinds of people drop dead because they can't afford to get medical help. MUCH better system.

    Your logic is impeccable.
     
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  5. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah--------------------I can hardly get around for all the people laying dead in the streets.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well now we know you don't give a rats arse for at least 18,000 of your fellow citizens each year. Must be you got coverage. Still live with mom?

    http://www.pnhp.org/news/2017/june/lack-of-health-insurance-is-deadly-annals-of-internal-medicine


    The nation's health department is taking steps to dismantle LGBT health initiatives, as political appointees have halted or rolled back regulations intended to protect LGBT workers and patients, removed LGBT-friendly language from documents and reassigned the senior adviser dedicated to LGBT health.

    The sharp reversal from Obama-era policies carries implications for a population that's been historically vulnerable to discrimination in health care settings, say LGBT health advocates. A Health Affairs study last year found that many LGBT individuals have less access to care than heterosexuals; in a Harvard-Robert Wood Johnson-NPR survey one in six LGBT individuals reported experiencing discrimination from doctors or at a clinic.
     
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    There is already a thread on this. And the child was flown by the NHS to America
     
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    Then why does America have a lower life expectancy and higher infant mortality rate than the UK?
     
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    Again why does theUK have a longer life expectancy and lower infant mortality rate?

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    Because they exterminate the sick.

    Those that do escape the death panels are the ones that can make it.
     
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    And you believe that power should lie with insurance companies. Whatever.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When did I say that?
     
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    What the F..........????

    Yeah! They keep people alive long enough to increase the average life span more than the USA THEN they kill them off with a death panel :roll:
     
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    When did I say the that I believe the government should be allowed to say who lives and who dies? Just dishing your same BS. How did it taste?
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    18,000 give us their names.
     
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    Are you being willfully ignorant or are you completely unaware of the science of epidemiology?
     
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    Good to know you still don’t have a clue about either case.

    Regarding Charlie, there was never a option of healing him offered by anyone. The whole case was about terminal care and was right for Charlie, he was never going to recover.

    This pretty much revolved around his ability to feel pain and if extending his life through artificial support was doing more harm.

    Regarding the second case, this revolved around the inability to treat him through lack of technical ability. If treatment was available in the UK it would of been provided in the UK. There was only a single hospital in the USA that was capable of providing treatment.

    You do know that the NHS paid for treatment in the USA beacause that was the only place treatment could be provided.

    This was never about not allowing treatment.

    But don’t let fact’s get in the way of your desperate attempt to prove universal healthcare is always a complete failure
     
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    UK NHS is a good thing in general but they do they do make mistakes
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...cancer-three-years-parents-abducted-hospital/

    What's crippled the NHS in the last 20 years have a wild guess but I'll give you a clue "you guys want to build a wall to keep them out." We have a sea but it still doesn't work!

    The big difference between Obamacare and UK NHS is Obamacare was just a back hander scheme to make insurance companies richer as well as Obama.

    It's 3 times cheaper per person in UK than under Obamacare which if America could implement something like this as their medicare protection whilst leaving the traditional insurance structure in place for the majority of wage earners I think it would be a good thing. I don't think you could replace the present US system with the UK system but you could take parts of it for medicare only!
     
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    Haha

    No matter your view I think we can all laugh at that guy
     
  20. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Great example of a death panel the got overridden. A great example of what is wrong with big government!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    It doesn't sell newspapers nor generate ratings; hence little or no coverage by the media. It's all about money these days. all else is secondary.
     
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    If there were "death panels" the average life span would be LOWER than the UK
     
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    What example? The NHS provided funding for the treatment aboard and then doctors went with them to look at the procedure so they can look at potentially providing it in the UK so I'm not sure of the example you're talking about?
     
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    Or the fact it’s utter crap and the NHS paid for treatment in the USA and followed the procedure so they could look at provindng it in the future from a technical point of view.
     
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    Only part of the treatment, and under huge duress because of the rotten deserved press they got about Charlie.
     

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