Study Confirms Climate Models are Getting Future Warming Projections Right

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  1. Badaboom

    Badaboom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes
     
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    And Australia is dealing with the massive wild fires that will likely be hitting California next summer (again).
     
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    Propaganda used to back up propaganda.....what is this? Perhaps Stalin's philosophy.
     
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    "The sun will very likely rise tomorrow in the east" is not a factual sentence?
     
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    Has the average global temperature increased over the last 50 years?
     
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    You don't know if there will be a tomorrow. Your statement is an assumption.
     
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    Irrelevant since it doesn't take into account the preceeding 4.5 billions years climate cycles.
     
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    You want to explain why Earth being a molten ball of rock for a billion years is relevant to the current climate discussion?
     
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    The best mechanics on the planet can’t even pull a bolt out of an engine…and be certain it will not break, that is why easy outs exist; chaos in the system exists, so no general number or specific ones with regard to failure can exist.

    I can say it is extremely likely that a bolt head that is smaller in diameter to the threaded portion will strip; I cannot give you a number.

    I can say it is extremely likely you will get roof damage during an 80mph hurricane if you have 60mph shingles and they were installed with staples instead of roofing nails; I cannot give you a number of failed shingles…

    I can say it is extremely likely that the two “brothers” who attacked Smollett will never see prison time for that hate crime; and you know that case is more simple than the chaos of weather.

    I cannot say it is extremely likely Trump will be reelected, and by how much, even when I know (as it stands now) I will vote for him again; the chaos in the system is too great for a general number much MORE a specific number. Especially considering RINO’s exist, I cannot be sure he will be running.

    The chaos of climate is too complex, affected by Australian Global Whining…, that nobody can prove or provide a general number or a more specific number as to the effect of man’s impact on the environment. We just know for certain that Australian arsonists stink, and it is extremely likely to affect the environment downwind; we cannot give you a general or more specific impact, because other factors downwind will play a part, but that does not mean impacts will not happen.
     
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    You dont know what I dont know. Your statement is an assumption.
     
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    The Earth will be fine no matter how significantly we alter the climate. Even if we turn the planet back into the molten ball of rock that it was for the first billion years, the planet will still be fine.

    The currently existing plants and animals will not.
     
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    Some believe this is a normal cycle, that global warming would have happened without man. When you look at Gore's "hockey stick," look to the left, follow it back. The whole freaking point of ice cores is to go back further than man.
     
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    Very much true. But I trust in the ability of thousands of climate experts to theorize and then test potential explanations for climate cycles against the current warming trend.
     
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    And there it is, if "We" turn it back? Did we make it the "molten ball of rock" it was? What did and why? Your own statement should show you it's been changing forever, heating and cooling cycles and man will not change that.
     
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    How about the thousands that don't agree with the dogma?
     
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    You want me to explain the formation of the Planet Earth and why it was a molten rock for a billion years?
     
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    There are not thousands who disagree with the basic tenets of AGW. There MIGHT be a significant number who disagree with the worst case scenario projections, but ~97% agree that the Earth is warming and that humans are a significant causal factor.
     
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    You couldn't explain the formation of earth lol, you don't know, you can't know, you will never know. The only thing I know for sure is that you don't know yet somehow you're acting like you do, which says a lot about you.
     
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    Well duh. It has been warming since the end of the Little Ice Age and warming before SUV's. I would be surprised to find any scientist that did not agree the earth is warming. You will also not find any scientist that disagree's that CO2 has increased. Beyond that, there is much much less agreement.
     
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    Now look at the 3.5 billions years it wasn't.
     
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    Ah, but I'm not the one trying to prove something, you are.
     
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    So?
     
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    Thousands of scientist at one time believed the earth was the center of the solar system... Belief isn't fact.
     
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    Not 97%, as per your source. 97% of a tiny subset do.
     
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    ....uhh...hmm...I don't know how to take that allegation. Are you really saying that it is impossible to know how the Earth was formed?

    Are you saying that I am incapable of explaining the formation of the Planet Earth according to the most prominent theories by Astronomers? Are you saying that Astronomers and Geologists are incapable of studying or explaining the formation of the Planet Earth?
     
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