Study Confirms Climate Models are Getting Future Warming Projections Right

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  1. Thirty6BelowZero

    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Grand Solar Minimum. You should appreciate that it's starting this year since there's a great fear among some in the world about burning up in the future.

    It's supposed to be as bad, or worse, than the Maunder Minimum in the late 1700's and early 1600's. The Dalton Minimum wasn't even as bad and contained "the Summer that never came" in it. It would be wise to stop wasting your time and energy (no pun intended) on global warming.
     
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    No. They were not attempting to re-create the Cook study (although that is still a good thing to get his study independently verified). They used different methodologies and different sample sizes.

    And if you don't want an explanation about Margins of Error and Statistical Sampling from me, then go take your argument to NASA and let them explain it to you.

    https://climate.nasa.gov/faq/17/do-scientists-agree-on-climate-change/
     
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    You should feel free to try and argue that the world needs to worry about Global Cooling. I will not join you.
     
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    I didn't expect you to listen, an here you are, not listening. I'm shocked I tell you...
     
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    Freeze and starve if you will...
     
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    No need. More and more people are finally starting to take notice. The global warming boondoggle is starting to die. More and more people are walking away from that hoax. That's why the desperate democrats turned towards a female child with Asperger's to push their message. They knew they could cry foul at anyone who insulted her.
     
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    Yes, Methane is a worse greenhouse gas on a chemical level. Water Vapor is not worse so much as there is just a lot more of it in our atmosphere (the planet being 70% water).

    But listen, you can sit there and scream to the sky about wanting more data from 1850 and prior all you want, but you are never going to get it in the absence of a time machine. So you are effectively shoving your head in the sand while denying the current warming trend - for which there are billions of data points in support - because you want data from 150 years ago.

    Meanwhile, the Earth is getting hotter at a faster and faster rate.
     
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    No.
     
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    Your theory about the acceptance of global warming as fact amongst the general population is objectively wrong.
     
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    I did listen, and then I explained why your point is brutally wrong. But go take it up with NASA.
     
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    And he will...

     
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    LOL.. "brutally"... I swear, the comedy gold you unconsciously generate on the boards... :roflol:
     
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    NASA knows about the coming GSM.
     
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    His deflections and debates haven't changed a bit.
     
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    And yet they still are not joining you in your crusade to warn the world about global cooling.

    Must be all that good ass Air Conditioning Lobbying Money.

    Damn!
     
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    No it isn't.
     
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    There is probably a limit to how far they can go back because like say Ice only goes so deep. Even if they couldn't go back far enough to see exactly what the temps were millions of years ago, that does not change the ability to know why something is happening now.

    Now as for formation of the earth, even a cave man can do it:

    “Thus saith God the Lord, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out [open universe]; he that spread forth the earth [see accretion disk], and that which cometh out of it [see moon]…”
     
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    What does Australia's fires have to do with California? They've arrested dozens for deliberately setting fires. Seems to me like the enviro wacko's are trying to increase Global Warming by driving up the CO2 levels. Trees release their stored CO2 when burned.
     
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    Scientists?
    I don't think so.
     
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    It was the common belief befor Copernicus. It was he who proved the heliocentric model that replaced the geocentric one. Ptolemy and Aristotle believed in the geocentric model for exemple.
     
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    Believed by scientists?
    Ptolemy and Aristotle weren't scientists in the true sense of the word. They were philosophers.
     
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    Yes, it is.

    The last four decades of surface temperature measurements, according to NASA.

    1980–1989 0.176 °C (0.317 °F) +0.177 °C (0.319 °F)
    1990–1999 0.313 °C (0.563 °F) +0.137 °C (0.247 °F)
    2000–2009 0.513 °C (0.923 °F) +0.200 °C (0.360 °F)
    2010–2019 (incomplete) 0.733 °C (1.32 °F) +0.265 °C (0.477 °F)

    The Previous four decades:

    1940–1949 0.035 °C (0.0630 °F) +0.078 °C (0.140 °F)
    1950–1959 −0.02 °C (−0.0360 °F) −0.055 °C (−0.0990 °F)
    1960–1969 −0.014 °C (−0.0252 °F) +0.006 °C (0.0108 °F)
    1970–1979 −0.001 °C (−0.00180 °F) +0.013 °C (0.0234 °F)

    The Previous four decades:

    1900–1909 −0.259 °C (−0.466 °F) −0.005 °C (−0.00900 °F)
    1910–1919 −0.276 °C (−0.497 °F) −0.017 °C (−0.0306 °F)
    1920–1929 −0.175 °C (−0.315 °F) +0.101 °C (0.182 °F)
    1930–1939 −0.043 °C (−0.0774 °F) +0.132 °C (0.238 °F)

    To make it clear, the average temperature change per decade in each of those three data sets are: 0.0951 °F, 0.0188 °F, 0.3508 °F. The last one is the most recent and it is 3.7x faster than the next closest.
     
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    It's called GLOBAL WARMING for a reason.

    Does California have any issues with wildfires in the Summer?
     
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    NASA already forecasted it. They just don't tell people what comes with it.
     

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