Study Confirms Climate Models are Getting Future Warming Projections Right

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  1. Professor Peabody

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    No we have a homeless problem setting the fires while drunk or stoned.
     
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    No change the last two decades in the US either.
     
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    Lucky for you, the Solar Maximum has peaked and will begin to fall now. Just be glad you didn't live alongside dinosaurs when the global means temp was +27°C. To put that in perspective, the mini ice age was -2°C global means temps.

    If it makes you feel any better, we hit heat records this Summer and cold records this Winter. The extreme weather fluctuations and worse than normal storms are a tell-tale sign of the incoming Grand Solar Minimum.
     
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    Yep. Definitely because of that Good Ass A/C Lobbying Money.
     
  5. MrTLegal

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    G.L.O.B.A.L.
     
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    Ptolemy wad an astronomer and a mathematician. I could name you many more but it would be futile since you don't seem to be open to discuss this honestly.
     
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    Still irrelevant.
     
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    So two major land masses with no change yet it’s a ‘crisis’. LOL
     
  9. MrTLegal

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    You didn't even pick major land masses. You picked the United States and Central England.
     
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    The last four decades of surface temperature measurements, according to NASA.

    1980–1989 0.176 °C (0.317 °F) +0.177 °C (0.319 °F)
    1990–1999 0.313 °C (0.563 °F) +0.137 °C (0.247 °F)
    2000–2009 0.513 °C (0.923 °F) +0.200 °C (0.360 °F)
    2010–2019 (incomplete) 0.733 °C (1.32 °F) +0.265 °C (0.477 °F)

    The Previous four decades:

    1940–1949 0.035 °C (0.0630 °F) +0.078 °C (0.140 °F)
    1950–1959 −0.02 °C (−0.0360 °F) −0.055 °C (−0.0990 °F)
    1960–1969 −0.014 °C (−0.0252 °F) +0.006 °C (0.0108 °F)
    1970–1979 −0.001 °C (−0.00180 °F) +0.013 °C (0.0234 °F)

    The Previous four decades:

    1900–1909 −0.259 °C (−0.466 °F) −0.005 °C (−0.00900 °F)
    1910–1919 −0.276 °C (−0.497 °F) −0.017 °C (−0.0306 °F)
    1920–1929 −0.175 °C (−0.315 °F) +0.101 °C (0.182 °F)
    1930–1939 −0.043 °C (−0.0774 °F) +0.132 °C (0.238 °F)

    To make it clear, the average temperature change per decade in each of those three data sets are: 0.0951 °F, 0.0188 °F, 0.3508 °F. The last one is the most recent and it is 3.7x faster than the next closest.
     
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    Study Confirms Climate Models are Getting Future Warming Projections Right

    Outstanding. Please let me know when I can plant palm trees in the back yard.
     
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    You can do it just before your back yard is commandeered to home the climate refugees.
     
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    Sounds like you're jelly about their solar panels, while you refuse to join in. lol
     
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    I am principled enough not to accept coerced government subsidies. Even with the subsidies solar panels would never pay for themselves.
     
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    Will it create that? Do source.
    Is that so?
    No doubt it's just as crap as coal mining. So what's your point? That some parts are just as bad but most is not that bad?
     
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    You are claiming equivalence between today’s coal mining in the US with cobalt mining in third world countries ???
     
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    I believe the answer is "now," but your HOA might have an issue.
     
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    We don't have HOA's out here in the country.
     
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    I need a date.
     
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    Leave it to liberals to invite spreading invasive species into non native environments,...
     
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    You'll need a date palm then. You'll get loads of them.
     
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    One thing I noticed when I was out there in the 70's and 80's, they were cutting down trees around farms near Oxnard. Then one day I witnessed why the cutting of those trees alarmed me at the time, a massive cloud of dust. Trees can serve other purposes, such as windbreaks.
    Another thing I noticed, being from Georgia, the color green, much of California is dull by comparison to other places. Dukes of Hazzard is a joke.

    Areas prone to such fires, dry them out a little more with climate changes and get more fires; Homeless people do not need to start them, but if they do, more massive than would otherwise be.
     
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    https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0048021
    Back in the 80's an aunt in Florida gave us some trees, we were in Georgia, they would produce fruit then freeze off at the last frost or so, at some point though, they might not. Some people will say that is great, as the growing zones move north for some stuff, but others might not. Some will gain, but others will lose as that little article says.
     
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    *snort*
     
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    You are calling @fmw a liberal, right? He is the one who wants to plant it.
     

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