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Study: More victims when a semiautomatic rifle is used in a mass shooting

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  1. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He said rifles, oh yee of lack of comprehension.

    https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u....016/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-4.xls

    Rifles: 374

    Blunt : 472

    Hands and feet: 656

    Knives: 1604

    So yes, hammers kill more people than AR15's. ALL rifles isn't ALL AR15's. AR15s result in less than 374 deaths.

    Almost TWICE as many people are beaten to death than shot with rifles.

    More than FOUR TIMES as many are stabbed to death.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Time for you to re-read.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Psst. Most firearms are semiautomatic firearms, including the handgun you have listed as "other firearms" in your little picture. The shotgun might be as well, judging by the photo.
     
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    why-because you and the other GCA pretend that unspecified firearms MUST mean semi auto rifles. If you divide up the UNSPECIFIED FIREARMS by the percentages of known firearm types what does that get you?
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    and more importantly-understand what he reads.
     
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    Give it up turtle, you lost.
     
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    Baby steps.
     
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    There they go strutting around the chessboard crapping everywhere and knocking pieces over.
     
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    Here's a clue. It isn't rifles against blunt objects. It's semi-auto rifles against baseball bats. They don't list baseball bats. Plus you have unidentified firearms some of which some would most likely be semi auto.

    2016

    Blunt objects: 472 (no further breakdown)
    Rifles: 372 (no further breakdown)
    Firearms, type not stated: 3000 (no further breakdown)
     
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    Here's another clue.

    That's all rifles.

    That includes semi-automatics and non semi-automatics.

    Try again.
     
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    No s***, we know that. Thanks for waking up. And that's all blunt objects, not just baseball bats. If there are any baseball bats.
     
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    So then you understand that semi-automatic rifles kill fewer people than blunt objects, hands and feet, and knives by large amounts.

    Thanks.

    Glad we got that cleared up.
     
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    It's not blunt objects or hands and feet, and knives, genius, it's baseball bats which are an unknown part of blunt objects.
     
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    Is it?

    Let's take a look.

    I'll use pictures for you.

    a5936c4a-f16f-48e0-b55a-37ee3a359adf.png
     
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    Try planet earth pal. You don't even know what the discussion is.

    Turtle: "You are more likely to be killed with a baseball bat or a golf club than a semi auto rifle in the USA"
     
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    Interesting numbers he had, as FBI UCR Table 12 showed 1804 blunt weapon homicides in 2016

    https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/tables/table-12

    Heck, there were 626 homicides with just hands and feet, no weapons used at all. Even that is more than his rifle count.
     
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    And you are.

    Blunt objects kill more people than rifles.
     
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    Here, I'll give you a hand:

    OJ's golf clubs, look for a murder weapon.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Oh would you like to run away from the argument now?
     
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    You're the one who ran away son. For the third time. It isn't blunt objects, it's baseball bats specifically. That means no jars of mayo, or hammers, or tire irons, etc.
     
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    Sure.

    Which is a blunt object.

    Since more blunt objects including baseball bats kill more people than rifles including semi-automatics, you have more chance of being killed by a baseball bat than a semi-automatic rifle.

    Think harder.
     
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    BS
     
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    Ok.

    Prove that more people are killed by semi-automatic rifles than baseball bats.

    I'll wait.
     
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    his first idiotic argument was that FIREARMS kill more than bats etc

    he got schooled.

    then he claimed SEMI AUTOS (not just semi auto rifles) killed more than bats etc

    see the pattern
     
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    A ) you're forgetting 3000 unidentified firearms.

    B) prove that more people are killed by baseball bats than semi-auto rifles, I won't wait.
     
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