Stupid IS as Stupid Did !

The height of hypocrisy and rank partisan bullcrap.
Trump ran on a Border wall.Americans en masse liked the idea.
It indisputably will keep many Illegals out and that is what our Country needs.
NOT open borders with Border control and ICE agents instructed on
Obama's marching order to Not arrest but catch & release.
Now Trump is facing More belligerent friction as to passing a
budget by it's deadline { Friday night }.
Like Obama and Harry Reid gave 2 craps about any budget.
Obama pleaded with use of the word " Urgent " many times in just
days after being sworn-in in 2009.Obama pleaded the " urgency " of
a Stimulus bill.Not a mere One Billion or even 3-4 Billion dollars.
Like what Trumps wants for a Border wall.
Obama begged and got a $ 787 BILLION dollar Stimulus bill.
Pelosi got her needed house vote at like 2 am on a Friday night.
That Stimulus managed to become $ 862 Billion.
It was used to shore-up Bankrupt Blue states in lieu of massive
layoffs of Government officials.Which was needed.
Like what Scott Walker { Wisconsin Governor } proved a few years later.

How Stupid can this Country be.If Trump holds out for just ONE BILLION
to start that Wall the democrats won't vote to pass a budget.
Then they'll play their old ruse of Republicans are shutting down the
Government.How many Government shutdown did Newt Gingrich
call for in order to achieve FOUR Consecutive Balanced Budgets.?
Gingrich had 2 shutdowns { 1995 & 1996 } over balanced budget demands.
Gingrich sighted how the Founding Fathers Liked Shutdowns.
Explaining they { Founders } knew a powerful Executive was needed to run
the government and serve as Commander-In-Chief in wartime.

 

Trump doesn't need Democrats to pass a Continuing Budget Resolution.

can't blame the Democrats for this failure

 

You got it wrong. The $787B became trillions --- since baseline budgeting took that $787B to ($787*1.06 or so)B the next year and (($787*1.06)*1.06)B the following year. The only thing that stopped the carnage was the sequester. Every time Reid and Obama conspired to fail to pass a budget, the baseline kept growing. Can't count the tax relief 'revenue' in that ,,, only spending increases through baseline budgeting.

 

The Dems { Harry Reid } refused to debate,let alone submit
and vote on a Budget.All Obama's First Term was handled via
CR's.

 

Plus in 2012 and again in 2013 Not a single member of the Senate
voted for Obama's Presidential budget.
The vote was 99-0 in 2013
and 97-0 in 2012
In 2015 it was 98-1

 

$50 donation to the forum says you are wrong

 

The budget isn't due on friday night. That's when the debt ceiling must be expanded or the government will go into "shutdown" mode. The GOP has nobody but themselves to blame for this one. Even the idiots that voted for Trump, who would probably cheer for a shutdown anyways, will have a hard time convincing themselves any differently.

It will be interesting to see if Trump, who has shown himself to be incapable of the task, can wrangle the different factions of his own party to get a vote. There are those who would love to see another shutdown in their continued attempts to destroy the USA. However, they know this time around they will be left holding the bloody knife and their constituents will let them know about it.

 

More un-American hypocrisy on display.The Dems said they will
Purposedly Shut the Government down if Trump dares to ask as
much as One Billion for a Wall.
I thought The dems were the ones who would never shut down their
Precious Big Brother.

 

Do you have a link to confirm the 90%?

Because these stats do not cofirm that...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...of-his-administration/?utm_term=.8be2f326d477

 

That's because it is a ludicrous claim.

 

Uh, so your argument is: It's only a billion dollars? I don't think the price tag is so much the issue so much as not wanting a wall. Liberals do not agree that having Mexican immigrants is a bad thing to begin with. Those liberal Texans also oppose the wall.

 

Actually the budget is not how the bills are paid. Ever

 

Trump's fighting those in Congress who are more conservative than they think he is. He is also fighting the old established republicans who don't think he has the pedigree to be president. All the democrats are fighting him. And the liberal media is beating him like a rug. The country is the last thing these hard-heads think about. Congress had better get in line or the next election they might find themselves unemployed. Trump is a movement by the people and the people are getting frustrated.

 

The Treasury collects tax revenue and a budget allows
for the Government to fund certain programs.
Based on the CBO and projections.
It is a notorious fact that when Congress gets their hands on tax
revenues it's spent before the ink on the paper is ever recorded.
That is why there are so Few Budget Surpluses.

 

No it does not. The budget has no force of law. It is a vision document. Appropriation bills fund the government. The budget is never followed

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...ntional-wisdom-on-illegal-immigration/524058/

 

1) As Noted above - The GOP does not need any Democratic votes for a budget.
2) They didn't submit a budget under Obama, because Turtle-man McConnell made clear the GOP would oppose EVERYTHING - and they did.

 

Read the article and there are factors that cause the fluctuation of immigration so it needs to be assessed over a period of time. But here's the thing...Why is Trump still asking for funding for a wall if immigration is on the decline (regardless of the contributing factors)? And why is he still hiring foreign workers and outsourcing his and his daughter's manufacturing? His inconsistencies are suspect.

 

What makes you think there will ever be funding for a wall?

It is now, and will be legal to outsource manufacturing. If laws are passed I suspect Trump will follow them. Perhaps you could lobby Democrats in congress to support tariff laws.

 

Why would Trump need to wait for laws to be made to end his outsourcing? And why would he not go out of his way to hire American workers in his Florida resort? Cutting immigration at the Mexican border does not affect his businesses in any way, but where it puts money in his pocket things remain satus quo.

 

I am not President Trumps business manager but I suspect contracts are involved with respect to manufactured products and not being in the resort business I cannot answer for him because I have no knowledge of his employees, but you and I can agree that only American born workers should be allowed to be employed in the US correct? That may be where your lobbying efforts should be directed.

 

You're right. There was a budget passed for 2009 --- passed through Congress in 2008 --- finally signed by Obama in March 2009 to celebrate finding the closet where Bubba did Monica.

 

Anyone who believes that Republicans actually want a wall is an idiot.
Anyone who believes that such a wall would run 1-4 billion is a complete idiot and therefore the perfect Trump voter.

 

It's illegal immigration. Why do you liberals keep dropping the "il"? Why do you support foreigners sneaking into our country by breaking our laws? The purpose of a wall is to reduce illegal immigration to a big fat zero. You got a problem with that? All our legal citizens should support our laws and want them enforced by all means.