SYRIA VOWS TO ATTACK ISRAEL UNLESS IT WITHDRAWS FROM THE GOLAN HEIGHTS

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  1. Grau

    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Doubted yourself about what?

    AIPAC pushed for the US to go to war with Iraq and America wasted $ Trillions and thousands of American lives for a war that Israel wanted.

    "Quietly lobbying Congress to approve the use of force in Iraq was one of AIPAC's successes over the past year."
    AIPAC executive director Howard Kohr
    New York Sun in January 2003

    Now, US Troops are stationed in Israel & Israel is trying to provoke the Syrians & Hezbollah with unprovoked air strikes.

    Do you doubt that more American lives will be wasted when AIPAC is "quietly successful" in initiating another war for Israeli regional hegemony?
     
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    The Golan Heights is vital to Dick Cheney's Genie Energy with the Rothschilds and Murdoch as shareholders.
     
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    I should not have doubted myself that you won't provide a link to US policy or any US official placing US troops under Israeli command. There's no such policy.
     
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    Israelis know better.
     
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    ? Know better about what?
     
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    What's good for Israel, of course.
     
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    You must be joking
     
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    That doesn't change the fact that Israel dictates when & with whom America goes to war in the Mid East even if it's not in America's best interests to do so.
    Now, with US Troops on Israeli soil, Israel can attack whomever it wants with the knowledge that the US will support them regardless of who initiates the war.

    After all, Trump just admitted what most of us have known all along.
    The US is in the Mid East "for Israel"

    Loyal Americans are sick of sacrificing American lives for the bellicose & criminal Netanyahu regime.

    "TRUMP: U.S. TROOPS WILL REMAIN IN THE MIDDLE EAST FOR ISRAEL"
    https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Trump-US-troops-will-remain-in-the-Middle-East-for-Israel-572997
     
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    Look it up.
     
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    What's good for Israel isn't necessarily what's good for America. I am excited about the possibility of all the evangelicals volunteering to defend Israel though. You can listen to their tongue-talking, Armageddon bullsh*t.
     
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    Just so long as we understand all the above is your opinion, is good enough with me :)
     
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    No

    If you a point to make then make it if you can
     
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    By providing Israel with financial and military support, America is keeping peace in the region. Was it not for American unwavering support, first idiot Arab country trying something funny with Israel would get a nuke lobbed up its stupid ass.

    You may not like it but then again, most underinformed people getting their knowledge of what's going on in the world from CNN, PMSNBC or Electronicenchilada would not like it either :nana:
     
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    Our lib acquaintance is correct that an American oil company is exploring for oil on the Golan heights

    We disagree that that is a bad thing

    The world needs energy
     
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    Ad hominem attacks because someone disagrees with some of your opinions? I'm surprised you didn't call me a racist, nationalist, white supremacist and hater.
     
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    My point is that there is more to the US supporting the take over of the Golan Heights by the Israelis; and that might be that certain energy corporations have a vested interest in having American soldiers fight for Israel's confiscation of the Golan Heights. I say if Cheney, Rothschild, and Murdoch want to protect their interests let them pay for that protection by hiring private forces. I could give a rat's patoot what Israel does in the Middle East. What I care about is American taxpayers paying for a war and American soldiers dying in a war that has nothing to do with America. America is coming apart at the seams. We need to care for our country first.
     
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    I don't do personal attacks, so no need to be surprised - I'm not a Liberal :)
     
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    I regret that it's not just my opinion that Israel decides if & when the US goes to war, again, it will be for the same reason that the US went to war with Iraq:

    "Quietly lobbying Congress to approve the use of force in Iraq was one of AIPAC's successes over the past year."

    AIPAC executive director Howard Kohr

    New York Sun in January 2003

    Unfortunately, Netanyahu is already gearing up for the next war for America to fight for Israel's regional hegemony:

    "Netanyahu’s ‘War’ Comment Wasn’t an Accident"
    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/a...etanyahu-s-iran-war-threat-wasn-t-an-accident

    EXCERPT "The gathering of more 60 nations -- including Arab countries -- is, he said, an important step in pursuing their “common interest in advancing war with Iran."CONTINUED
     
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    Fine, fine... just so long as this fantasy is not an official US policy, I'm fine with it :)
     
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    You think too much

    If there is oil under Golan Israel should develop it

    But if there was nothing down there except sand the Golan Heights would still be vital to Israels survival
     
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    Crimea has been a vital Strategic interest to Russia for 400 years - you were then in favor if Russia annexing it ?
     
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    "Official" or "unofficial"...the net result is the same.

    Israel will decide when the US fights another war for Israel's expansionist agenda.

    The mutilated, burned, traumatized & dismembered young American casualties who linger in the halls of America's V.A. Hospitals and fought America's last war for Israel are far from a "fantasy". Go see for yourself.

    The fact that you're willing to sacrifice more American lives in another war for the grasping & bellicose Netanyahu regime is disturbing, at the least.



    "Do Americans Want to Die for Israel?"
    https://www.unz.com/proberts/do-americans-want-to-die-for-israel/

    EXCERPTS "Israel is the reason for Washington’s hostility toward Syria and Iran. Israel has twice tried to occupy southern Lebanon, which Israel covets for its water resources, and twice Israel was driven out by the Hezbollah militia.

    That is what it all the lies told about Iran are about. By creating a bogeyman out of Iran, Israel can build up the American public’s support for US military action against Iran.

    The Saker says that “Americans should ask themselves—Do I want to die for Israel?”CONTINUED
     
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    So... no US policy that places US troops under Israel command? But that's what you've said - "the IDF will decide whether or not U.S. troops become embroiled in the regional war for which Israel is preparing, not the United States"... another fantasy?
     
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    If russia could they would

    And no one would care what I think about it
     
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    It's not a fantasy according to Gen. Richard Clark:

    "Top US General Says American Troops Should Be Ready To Die For Israel"
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018...ys-american-troops-should-be-ready-die-israel

    EXCERPT "US Third Air Force Commander Lt. Gen. Richard Clark spelled out just such a scenario wherein US troops could be asked to fight and to die for defense of America Israel - even to the point of being placed under Israeli commanders responsible for battlefield decision making.

    Should broader war break out between Israel, Hezbollah, Iran, and Syria, will US troops who find themselves working closely with the IDF be forced to obey the commands of Israeli generals, even to the point of death? We can't find anything in the oath of enlistment or the Constitution [federal statute in 10 U.S.C. 502, and based in Article VI of the Constitution] that requires US citizens or soldiers to defend and fight for a foreign nation."CONTINUED
     

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