Team Trump's Collusion

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  1. Pardy

    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump asked Russia to hack his political opponent.

    Donald Jr. met with Russian officials to get dirt on Hillary.

    Trump is doing nothing to enforce Russia sanctions overwhelmingly supported by he public and Congress.

    When it was revealed Trump has many Russian agents on his team (Page, Manafort, etc), he did nothing.

    Did Team Trump collude with Russia? Of course.

    The bigger question is how much foreign intervention in America's future will the people tolerate? As the 2018 midterms approach, Trump has done nothing to prevent further foreign intervention, and has shown no evidence that his team won't collude with Russia again in 2020.
     
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    There is no evidence manafort or page, or anyone else is a russian agent, working for russia against the US. So, grab it, compress it, and put it back from where you retrieved it...and then please, wash your hands. No one like to smell fecal matter. Trust me on this. Hard to pass it off as flatulence.

    The same goes for your collusion ideas. If you ever get called for jury duty, just show them your OP above if you want to get out of it.
     
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    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Okay, so you don''t know what an agent is. That's fine.

    But what isn't fine is that anyone would be okay with a foreign government having any control over national elections.

    And yes, there was collusion... plenty of it. Maye you don't know what that means either.

    Think with your head, not your heart. Your Messiah is a fake.
     
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    Manafort is charged with Conspiracy against the United States.
     
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    Bzzt wrong Trump alleged Russian possibly already had those E-mails. Big difference. In fact at the time Trump made that quip the server in question could no longer be hack as it had been bit bleached and acid washed.
    Which he did not get and was no more criminal than the DNC hiring a foreign national to dig up dirt on Trump.

    Why there is no evidence that the first round of sanction changed Russian behavior and the evidence for their involvement is flimsy at best

    How many of them still work for Trump? Only Flynn had a Job after the transition.

    And your final observation sorry to date none are prove.
     
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    How could this be???????????? Didn't barry tell them to "CUT IT OUT"?
     
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    I was just thinking we need another dozen or so fantasy threads about Trump's alleged collusion, and voila!

    Trump is LITERALLY HitlerStalinJacktheripper, and must be impeached last year. :salute:
     
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    Yeah just skimmed the whole thing lot's of luck proving any of it in an honest court room.
     
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    12 years ago and hasn't been tried and convicted. Carry on.
     
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    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You disproved absolutely nothing I asserted.

    You seem comfortable with a presidential candidate asking a foreign power to hack their opponent. Are you actually okay with that?

    Are you okay with Trump's team filled with Russian agents and Russian money?

    Are you okay with so many members of Team Trump lying about secret meetings with Russian officials?

    Are you okay with Trump's failure to punish Russia for heir election meddling?
     
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    No one can wallow in the gutters as long as trump has and not come out dirty. Impeached last year - no, this year will be fine.
     
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    Two of his peers already pleaded guilty.
     
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    You said there is no evidence. Clearly there is evidence that trump's campaign manager was actively working against the US

    But I know, trump only picks the best people - traitors.

    And then we have Flynn and his planned kidnapping. Trump hired a freaking kidnapper!

    Trump was warned about Flynn but only got rid of him after getting caught by the Washington Post. Were it not for the WP, we might well have a foreign agent occupying the highest chair in Washington for national security.
     
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    Since countries have been involved in other countries elections (think Israel and obama) since time began, the real question might be, Did Russia get Donald J. Trump elected? I think you already know the answer to that question don't you?
     
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    Repeating the same ludicrous charges ad nauseum does not make them true. He did not ask the Russians to hack Hillary's server he suggested they already had. To date none of them have been proven to be Russian agents. And most were gone before the election. To date no one has provided any proof of Russian money, Hillary and Bill have far more Russian money than Trump has seen in his life time.
    One's sentencing hearing has been postponed due to potential prosecutorial misconduct. The other we shall see what comes of it.
     
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    So... why bother having elections?

    They made an attempt. That matters.
     
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    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...ld-surrender-special-prosecutor-probe-n815536
     
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    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think having 3,500 lawsuits to his name when he ran for office was a bit of a red flag.
     
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    To completely unrealated charges and one of them may have his plea removed because of prosecutorial misconduct.
     
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    Please, don't try to confuse conservatives with the truth.
     
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    NOthing confusing about it. It is a bogus charge of the sort you usually get from a desperate prosecution throwing everything at the wall and hoping something will stick.
     
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    This whole thread is a farce. Look what is alleged to have happened with the dossier on Trump via “Referral of Christopher Steele for Potential Violation of 18 USC 1001” by Grassley and Graham. Looks like Hillary, her campaign, her State Department, the DNC, Fusion GPS and Steele had a nice little conspiracy with some Russians to compile fake allegations as fact in the dossier.

    “...it appears that Mr. Steele gathered much of his information from Russian government sources inside Russia.” He had meeting setup with NYT, Washington Post, CNN, Yahoo News and Fusion GPS to divulge his fake narrative before the election. “...Mr. Steele admitted that he received and included in it unsolicited -and unverified- allegations.”

    One memorandum by Steele that wasn’t published by Buzzfeed is dated October 19, 2016. “Mr. Steele’s memorandum states that his company ‘received this report from (redacted) US State Department,’ that the report was the second in a series, and that the report was information that came from a foreign sub-source who ‘is in touch with (redacted), a contact of (redacted), a friend of the Clintons, who passed it on to (redacted).’ It is troubling enough that the Clinton Campaign funded Mr. Steele’s work, but that these Clinton associates were contemporaneously feeding Mr. Steele’s allegations raises additional concerns about his credibility.”

    Clinton can’t even cheat and win.

    Memo available at http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/
     
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    Is that what money laundering is called, from the big picture? If not, share with us the nature of this conspiracy, and if it involved colluding with russia to effect the outcome of the election in trump's favor. Or are you privy to info not published?

    I hope you are not using the Conspiracy against the US as evidence that this means manafort colluded with russia to affect and meddle in the outcome of a US election, unless you are positive of this. But I am sure you would never intentionally try to fog up something for partisan motives. So, an explanation is called for, I think. Yes? Be much more specific and detailed for it is hard to read a mind, if you are not a legal expert in federal law.
     
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