Ted Cruz Calls On Schiff to Step Down and Be a Witness

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  1. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah, I loved that story of his where he dodged sniper fire and claimed he was an indian while being fired due to his pregnancy. Those whoppers were pure gold.
     
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    In case you haven’t figured it out yet ALL politicians lie for political gain. It’s part of the game. Then what always gets me is the left thinks Trump supporters believe everything that comes out of his mouth. I don’t believe everything he speaks but I believe results. Most of Trumps “lies” are sarcastic remarks that the right understands and can relate too. The problem with the left is they can’t distinguish between lies and sarcasm.
     
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    Like Hunter and Joe Biden, Chris Heinz, Devon Archer as well as Depositions from Shokin and Zelensky? If the Democrats want witnesses, they will have to deal with these........
     
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    "OWWWW! My bone spurs!!"
     
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    The Bidens were not involved in, and have no personal knowledge of, Trump’s efforts to influence Zelensky. Or in Trump’s efforts to obstruct Congress. So not relevant to these impeachment proceedings.
     
  6. Thirty6BelowZero

    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Opinions aren't facts. Try again.
     
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    Yeah....you point that out and I'll point out that Nancy Pelosi and others stated there should NEVER be a partisan impeachment. Ted Cruz has Trump's back and you don't lie it. That's all.
     
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  8. Thirty6BelowZero

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    Bingo. And meanwhile, as he keeps pleading the 5th, he and his gaggle will continue to point and call Trump and Senate Republicans corrupt liars.
     
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    The guy admitted to it on video tape, so of course it deserves further investigation to determine if he was BSing or he really did it. The guy wants to be President. We could ask Biden if he broke the law but he'll likely just say it wasn't true and he was bragging.

    If Biden did what he bragged about doing, that would constitute an abuse of office as the Vice President. Being a rival candidate doesn't make any abuses and law breaking by him while VP above the law. Trump asked Zelenskyy to coordinate with the US Attorney General, NOT his campaign. If Biden didn't do it then there may be a case for political gain. But we won't know unless the Senate investigates during Trumps trial in the Senate. Testimony from the Biden's, Chris Heinz, Devon Archer and Adam Schiff as well as depositions by Zelensky and Shokin will be key to determining whether Trump was legitimately going after corruption or seeking to damage a political rival.
     
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    Good one. Has anyone ever proved Trump didn't have bone spurs? I know "repeat it until it becomes fact" is a left wing motto, but have you ever seen proof of no bone spurs?

    Thanks in advance.
     
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    Fine. Let the Senate investigate. But they have no knowledge of the facts relating to this impeachment.
     
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    "Testimony from the Biden's, Chris Heinz, Devon Archer and Adam Schiff as well as depositions by Zelensky and Shokin will be key to determining whether Trump was legitimately going after corruption or seeking to damage a political rival."

    If Joe pleads the 5th.....his campaign is over.
     
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    Obviously every legitimate investigation involves a private lawyer and a mobbed up Ukrainian lol
     
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    I hated Obama and unfortunately voted for trump but thanks for your baseless speculation!
    Seems to be all the red hats have anymore. Anyone that disagrees or dares speak ill of the president must want to burn the constitution — that is an argument I would expect out of North Koreans or a cult.
     
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    So him saying he would fix healthcare, release his tax returns, end corruption and pay down the debt — all that was sarcasm? — that his base can “relate to”?
     
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    He tried to fix health care but the senate shot it down. Remember? As far as corruption is concerned you need to talk to the dems about that. You really think he can fix the debt in three years? Let’s see where we stand at the end of his second term. Did he lie about his tax returns? Ya but most people really don’t give a crap about them. I wouldn’t release them either. It would just give the libs more fake substance to start another BS investigation.
     
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    Nobody is more at the center of this whole thing than Schiff other than the guy who had second hand information about a phone call. I do not see why they would not call him.
     
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    So in the four examples I gave one isn’t his fault, one is deflected ack to the democrats unaddressed, one he hasn’t had enough time (even though he recently said who cares about the debt) and one was a lie but you don't care... Not much sarcasm in that.
     
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    When did I say anything about sarcasm in your four examples?
     
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    You said previously, “Most of Trumps “lies” are sarcastic remarks that the right understands and can relate too. The problem with the left is they can’t distinguish between lies and sarcasm.”

    Most of his lies are not sarcasm, they are just lies — yes, lies that his base feel are defendable or irrelevant — but lies none the less.
     
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    I know what said. I said MOST of his “lies” were sarcasm that the left blew out of proportion. Key word most, not all. Every politician lies and has a base that believes there lies. So don’t single out Trump supporters. I said he lied about his tax returns. What else do you want? And ya I don’t give a rats ass about his tax returns. I let the IRS handle that. Smart people let actions speak louder then words. His actions have benefited my family income and my 401k. You vote on policy and results not all the BS that comes out of these politicians mouths. Not a hard concept. One thing I like to ask people is how has Trump negatively effected your personal way of life. MOST but NOT ALL can’t give a good answer. It’s always well he’s a racist, a nazi, he lies ALL the time, he locks kids in cages, he’s corrupt, I could go on and on. But you know one thing these answers all have in common with? The negative agenda from the MSM. The MSM right and left tell lies. Everything is one big lie over and over. It’s up to the individual to think for themselves instead of being brainwashed by the MSM.
     
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    I did not single out trump supporters — they do seem as a whole to be much more fervent in their narrative than I have witnessed previously. Just daring to question anything frequently has the person labeled a communist or told to leave if you do not like it here.

    As for how has trump negativity effected both myself and the nation; he has lowered the national discourse, he has ignored the debt and deficit, he is severely diminishing our institutions.

    Yes, he is a liar.
    Yes, he is corrupt.

    Both of these are facts evidenced both before and after he was elected to his current position.
     
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    A lot of that is your opinion or assumptions. Also our Congress is the biggest sh!t show I have ever seen. They need to take the blame as well.
     
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    Do you believe he has bettered the national discourse?
    Or addressed the debt or deficit?
     
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    Both parties are responsible for the discourse. Right now they both suck. As far as the debt is concerned, no I don’t think enough is being done. But like I said earlier the debt will take along time to heal if that’s even possible. Give the man some time.
     

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