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  1. creativedreams

    creativedreams New Member

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    Test your fragile, feeble minds...



    Israeli Mossad were proven to be in and among the hijackers before 9/11.

    Some question if the hijackers were set in the direction of this plot by the Mossad.

    Just before 9/11 it was slipped into the news about successfully taking over a boeing passenger plane with remote control and landing it pilotless.

    The remote flying of boeing passenger planes was developed for counter terrorism in the event they were hijacked.

    Perhaps the skill needed to locate far away targets with no navigational help and to be precise in striking them is why remote flying was incorporated?...

    Is this why these experienced pilots question what really went on..?
    http://http://pilotsfor911truth.org/

    Some question if the willing hijackers were lured to do the plot by the Israeli Mossad and then remote flying took over to make an event happen to change the Americsn mindset, shove a long pre-written bill through congress, and have an excuse to get a secure hold in the middle east.

    Basically the sacrificing of a pawn to obtain a strategic square on the world's chessboard.

    By the way...interesting enough the same office to use the remote flying technology on boeing passenger planes had an office in World Trade Center 7 or Building 7 where only its entire high floor, walls, windows, etc were reinforced to withstand impacts of some sort.

    The counter terrorism office in Building 7 was basically a treefort, or sky bunker within sight of World Trade Center 1&2.

    Some question if this was the office to pull of the event of 9/11 by remote flying planes...

    The Pentagon too was reinforced for a possible impact just before 9/11 and just happened to have the only section of the building reinforced and partitioned off for construction renovation that was affected on 9/11.
     
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    creativedreams New Member

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    The information posted is all real and can be verified so please do not demonstrate the classic form of denial by attacking the messenger and not looking at the facts...
     
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    candycorn New Member Past Donor

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    Nobody cares.

    Say about 2 years ago, you swore there were investigations in other countries that would prove 9/11 was an inside job. Remember those?

    What ever happened to them?

    You didn't make that up did you mountain man/iron ranger/maximus/ I forgot all of your other sock puppets.
     
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    candycorn New Member Past Donor

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    There is zero evidence of government involvement in the planning or execution of 9/11. Never has been. Never will be. Don't you have some questions to answer?
     
  6. DublinChris

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    Israels fingerprints are all over 911.Watch Missing Links 911, perhaps the most authoritative and definitive documentary on the subject.
     
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    When one takes into consideration how much the Israeli government tries to ensure that Jews are not subject to terrorism, the claim that Mossad is at the centre of 9/11 must be the most crackpot theory ever perpetrated here and the OP has the gall to claim that others have fragile feeble minds.
     
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    candycorn New Member Past Donor

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    And if you were to make the argument that somehow the CIA outsourced it's covert ops to another like-capeable entity, it's doubly moronic...as if they want someone else to know what they are plotting.
     
  9. creativedreams

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    It would be logical to have Mossad and CIA work in conjunction to stage an attack for ulterior, common goals


    It has been done before by Germany where the German Government staged an attack against its own government building to gain support to pass bills dubbed as "For The Protection of the People and the State"

    and to form an entity like the SA Storm Troopers which had seperate powers...when germany faked their own attack it created more "policing" and the top police and military in germany question this...

    The new "policing" agency was able to discreetly arrest millions and we all know what happened to them.

    America with its suspected staged attack has formed the "Homeland Security" with new and seperate "policing" powers ripe for abuse.

    With the forced bill shoved through congress right after 9/11 now any American can be arrested and held forever and not get "due process of the law" by simply someone at the top of the pyramid scheme saying they are a suspected terrorist. (look familiar to german SA Storm Troopers?)

    Why would America need to create a new and seperate organization when it has countless others like FBI, etc?

    When this huge pre-writen bill was being shoved through congress all of a sudden we had the anthrax attack which just happened to target the biggest opponents to the passing of the bill and the U.S. Media

    Which brings up another point....the whitehouse staff began taking the antidote for anthrax shortly before there was even the attack...
     
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    What is interesting is how the CIA was caught with trying to make an Osama video depicting him as gay...brings to question the only claimed evidence that is said to be connecting Osama to 9/11 which is a video.
     
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    It may have to do with the bigger threats of bigger powers.

    It would be logical to use the terrorism, which does exist, as a scapegoat to secure a stategic hold in the middle east and help to protect Israel from its rogue nations in that region
     
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    That's classic hilarity right there.

    Start out with an insult and then demand civil discourse.

    The only way to win is not to play.
     
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    Many agree and now we have Iran who's leader that claimed the U.S. concocted 9/11 at the U.N being protected by China and Russia.

    If Israel or the U.S. targets Iran's nuclear facility then it will be at war with China and Russia in an all out nuclear war which was recently stated..

    China is threatening the U.S. of World War in an unpresidented bold statement from a usually quiet giant...
    Chinese General Threatens US with World War 3 over Iran | EUTimes.net

    Russia is threatening to start a nuclear war in a powerful statement of the likes that haven't been used since the "cold war"...
    Russian Top General threatens to start Nuclear War - CNN iReport[/QUOTE]
     
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    creativedreams New Member

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    So what do you say about the facts?
     
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    candycorn New Member Past Donor

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    So what ever happened with those investigations you swore were going on there Mountainman?
     
  16. DublinChris

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    Not really when you consider that five dancing Israelis were arrseted filmoing the planes crashing into the towers. Turns out they were there to "document the event" as disclosed in an Israeli television interview. They were arrested but were released when Michael Chertoff - a Talmudic Jew and dual Israeli citizen and who was head of homeland security ensured they received safe passage home to Israel. We also have the van with the mural on it's side showing a plane over in front of the twiin towers, again this was full of explosives which thanks to the quick thinking of the police who managed to thwart another massacre of more American citizens by Israel. Then of course we have Alan Sabrosky - an American Jew, decorated war hero and head of the American war college and I quote :

    "It is, and it's more than that, Mark. What we need to stand up and say is that not only did they attack the USS Liberty, they did 9/11. They did it.

    I have had long conversations over the past two weeks with contacts at the Army War College, at the Headquarters Marine Corps, and I have made it absolutely clear in both cases that it is 100% certain that 9/11 was a Mossad operation. Period.

    You know, Phil, I don't denigrate what happened to USS Liberty in the slightest - you understand that - but for most Americans what happened to the USS Liberty, or in Vietnam, was history. Now this is history. You know, they can be concerned about it, but they're not going to get mad about it.

    9/11 has led directly to 60,000 Americans dead and wounded, God knows how many hundreds of thousands of people in other countries that we've killed or wounded or made homeless, and it's an on-going sore. It's not your sore from the USS Liberty, it's not my sore from Vietnam. Both of us have those, both of us care about. But this is an open wound.

    And what Americans need to understand is that they did it. They did it. And if they do understand that, Israel's going to disappear. Israel will flat-ass disappear from this Earth."


    And. Alan Hart- highly esteemed BBC journalist and Middle East corrospondent

    Breaking his self-imposed rule against talking about 9/11, former Senior BBC Mideast Correspondent and author Alan Hart described what he thinks may have really happened on that fateful day on yesterday’s Kevin Barrett show.

    Hart, who got to know Yasser Arafat and Golda Meir while serving as a Security Council-briefed Mideast peace negotiator, said that he has been assured by a top-level demolitions/engineering expert who wishes to remain anonymous that the three World Trade Center skyscrapers were destroyed by controlled demolitions, not plane crashes and fires. (For the names of more than 1000 experts willing to go on the record with the same opinion, see http://www.ae911truth.org).

    During the hour-long interview, Hart discussed Israel’s record of engaging in outrageous attacks on friend and foe alike, and spreading even more outrageous lies to cover them up. (Around the midpoint of the show he explained the real reason Israel attacked the U.S.S. Liberty in 1967.)
     
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    Come to me when you have some.

    So far:

    "Some question if" and "perhaps" seems to be the common theme of your post.

    That and your wild claims of treeforts, and sky bunkers and pentagon reinforcement have been completely discredited. You're not claiming those are facts, are you?
     
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    Perhaps if your government released clear transparent footage of the impact and what hit it will provide you with the answer. Their were hundreds of camera, some with a birds eye view and all of these cameras were quickly removed. Instead, we get a ridiculous 4 frame piece of film which only reinforces suspicion instead of debunking. So you believe that a terrible pilot like Hani Hanjoor who had problems operating a basic one engine cessna aircraft, could perform the incredible feat of controlling a huge aircraft that weighs tonnes and perform near impossible top gun style manoeuvres that pilots with decades of experience would have great difficulty doing? All this without scratching the lawn...go figure.
     
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    The CIA, as sophisticated as it is with everything it can do, legally or illegally, wouldn't have got away with it either. It's an impossibility that a crime of such magnitude could be kept secret.
     
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    Strange, is it not, that hundreds of photo's and many videos of the incident are in open domain, yet nobody knows the actions of the people who took them.

    Yet, five dancing Israeli's are the only culprits and were set free because the man in charge was also Jewish.

    It would be serious if it wasn't so laughable.
     
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    The Manhattan Project (the creation of the nuclear bomb) was kept secret and that had 100,000 thousand employees. There only needed to be a select few people at the top of the chain of command who knew exactly what was being carried out, where and how to create confusion, and why. The military and intelligence community is made up of people accustomed to following orders, without question. And many researchers who have spent time in the CIA and military intelligence have stepped forward into the 9/11 truth movement to explain the notion of 'compartmentalization'. A phenomenon and strategy that explains why not very many people need be in on the overall plan and execution of a covert operation for it to be successful.

    "Compartmentalization is an organizational strategy analogous to the old parable of the blind men and an elephant -- each of the men is asked to describe what the elephant is, and all accurately describe their perception (trunk, tusk, legs, ears, tail, body), but none of them understand what the entire elephant is. Covert operations succeed by keeping most of the participants focused on their particular task, unaware of the full situation. Compartmentalization means that only key people in key places need to know what their role in a covert operation is -- others nearby might not be aware of those ensuring the success of the operation. This practice refutes the claim that too many people would have had to know about 9/11 for a conspiracy to allow it to have been possible."
     
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    That's all well and good, but EVERYONE would know what it was all about AFTER the event happened.

    So are we to believe that NONE of them would be upset at being used in this fashion and would not try and secretly leak some incriminating information to clear their conscience?
     
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    Klaus Fuchs and the Rosenbergs would disagree with you.
     
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    Why do you truthers keep referencing the Manhattan project as a successful conspiracy that kept complete secrecy?

    Over 130,000 people were "in on it"

    The details of the project were made public in 1945.Public awards were given to the private contractors that worked on the project.

    The government clearly didn't want to contain the "conspiracy" and there's no way it could have had it wanted to. No one would have assumed the atomic bomb just sprung up out of the ground. Competitive nations would have figured out (and did figure out) exactly what we did and how we did it.

    Besides, ours wasn't the only project on the planet. The Japanese had one, the Germans had one. The Russians had one.

    Where do you think they got the idea?
     
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    Yes they are facts...

    The 23rd floor of World Trade Center 7 (Building 7) had its floors, windows, walls etc reinforced to withstand "terrorism" truly making it a treefort or some type of sky bunker within Building 7.

    This project costed many millions and was highly ridiculed in NY during constuction with many questioning why create a bunker high in a building that could be subject to elevator outage, etc in such an odd location?

    The Pentagon truly did have a project start just before 9/11 with the intention of reinforcing its walls for a possible impact or missile strike.

    The only part of the Pentagon that happened to be completed with the reinforcement before 9/11 just happened to be the very part of the building involved in 9/11.

    All the rest are verifiable facts too if you are interested...
     

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