Texas becomes biggest US state to lift COVID-19 mask mandate

You didn't answer the question. Go figure.

 

Mask mandates became common amongst many states earlier last year but yet the virus still surged regardless, even moreso in the states with the strictest restrictions. So how do you come to the conclusion that masks are "very effective at slowing spread" when the opposite happen after masks were mandated.

 

I'm not an "anti-masker" personally, but I am a pro-freedom of individual choice person.

Anyway believe whatever you want from the current "Covid Czar":

"Even if there is some asymptomatic transmission, in all the history of respiratory-borne viruses of any type, asymptomatic transmission has never been the driver of outbreaks," Fauci said. "The driver of outbreaks has always been a symptomatic person." - Dr. Fauci

"There are people who are spreading it who have no symptoms at all, and we know that definitely occurs. It's difficult to identify it, and it's difficult to do identification, isolation and contact tracing.” - Also, Dr. Fauci

Then, try to think for yourself. Are you more likely to get Covid from something with a hacking cough or someone with no symptoms??? Larger expelled droplets landing on you will more likely make you ill than tiny little particles from someone with no symptoms just breathing normally. A low "load" of virus will likely cause a less severe infection than a big "load". Which load is bigger: A sick person coughing or an apparently healthy person just breathing?

In either case, social distancing is more effective than a mask in terms of your risk of inhaling any sized "load" of viral particles. The longer time the virus might be in the air, the less "active" virus is in the air.



https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/how-covid-spreads.html

 

So, stay 6 ft away from other people and those respiratory particulates won't land on you. Dr. Fauci said early, when he said that people do not need to be wearing masks, that "The virus won't jump on you." Fauci has flip-flopped on just about every stance and went from being a more honest scientist to being more political TV personality. Some of us listened to Fauci, Version I when he was a scientist. Some like Fauci 2.0 today as a propagandist.

Covid is a coronavirus. A new strain out of thousands of coronaviruses which scientists have studied for decades does not give this one any special super powers, else it has been misidentified as a coronavirus.

 

By, you know, actually looking into the science of it, comparing places that practiced mask-wearing more diligently to those that did not. Looking into the basic physics of it. By taking the time to educate myself.

 

What the hell are you even talking about? No one has claimed it has "super powers," but no one is seriously dumb enough to think that it is no deadlier or more contagious than the common cold variants of coronavirus. Yes, there are other coronaviruses. Yes, this one is more deadly than most.

 

Really? Well surely you can show an example. Maybe California? Oh wait, no that wouldn't be a good example.

Again, cases SOARED later in 2020, AFTER masks mandates began yet you still claim they were effective in slowing the spread. Not even close. Poor job on that self education.

 

It's not like you to post disingenuous drivel. wtf?

 

Exactly right. If masks were effective in stopping the spread of covid we would expect a sharp drop off in positivity rates a couple of weeks after a mandate was instated. Has that occurred anywhere?

And more to the point masks become even less important as the number of infected people drops.

 

https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/4...s-heres-science-behind-how-face-masks-prevent
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0237691
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/ar...TzlyDGy__0ZJKGuBsqxfxi40rEQ_gjvnVoZI-AkqMEN8M
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2468042720300117
https://www.pnas.org/content/118/4/e2014564118
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/more/masking-science-sars-cov2.html

 

100,000 businesses have permanently closed, and that was the number as of last August 31st. Estimates are that 50% of businesses which were forced by the government to close are closed for good.

My boss told me that Austin Mayor Adler's wealthy real estate buddies are buying up all the small business owners' properties for a song.

We see Bill Gates buying up farm land, though he wants everyone to eat lab created meat substitutes. We see Bezo buying AMC movie theaters, which he is likely to shut down so his Amazon movie download business has less competition from "retail".

This is the largest transfer of wealth from the middle-class to the extremely wealthy this country has ever seen, and the global politicians are aiding and abetting in the partnership. The lockdowns have little to do with a virus which only kills 0.03% of the people it infects. This is planned transfer of wealth and power. People need to wake up and resist before it's too late.

 

And yet the numbers show the opposite of what you're trying to prove. The case numbers throughout the months following mask mandates show masks had little to no effect.

No matter how many links you share saying masks are effective, facts show otherwise.

 

Try applying critical thinking to it. If cancer deaths are on the rise, does that prove that cancer treatments and preventative measures don't work? Think about it.

 

I'm seeing a lot of state comparisons between states with and without mask mandates. The curves are almost identical.

Compare Texas and Florida. Same cases/100k. Florida with a much older population than Texas had fewer deaths.

Texas (with a mask mandate until this week) versus Florida (with no mask mandate):

 

Taking time to educate yourself is always a good thing. More people should do that.

Mississippi has had an on/off mask mandate since June while Alabama has masked constantly and their case curves are nearly identical.

Mississippi versus Alabama:

 

You're continuing to make the statement that masks were effective in slowing the spread. Facts show otherwise. You're reaching trying to make it work but it doesn't. It's not a matter of opinion but facts and they are not supporting the effectiveness of masks at all. If they were, cases would have not have soared nationwide after mask mandates became a thing.

 

I agree... reluctantly.

Here's the thing -- although the actual 'death rate' from COVID-19 is very low, we've got new 'variants' coming into the U. S. from other countries, including the UK, Brazil, South Africa, and others are on the way -- especially now that senile, half-witted ol' Joe has, in essence, thrown the southern border of this country open to every disease from Brownsville, Texas to the SOUTH POLE!

If I were in Texas today (I'm a native, ex-patriate Texan, living in Colorado), In any public place, I'd continue wearing a mask, I'd continue wearing 5-mil nitrile gloves, and I'd continue staying as far away from other people as I could in practicality. I do those things here in Colorado, and everything continues to be just fine....

Sure, it's a pain in the ass, but I know people who have had the virus, and I know people who have lost loved ones because of the virus. It's just AWFUL.

So, I'll get vaccinated with the Johnson & Johnson vaccine when they roll it out, but I'll continue to do the mask/gloves/distancing thing -- because we STILL have no fugging idea what's coming NEXT -- and, very candidly, neither do all these "health experts"....

 

I've provided facts showing that they have, which you still haven't addressed. Meanwhile, I've addressed the faults in your argument. It's the equivalent of saying, "Well, we still have a lot of automobile deaths, so I guess car safety features don't work." The argument is, I'm sorry, dumber than a sack of hammers.

See post above.

Apply some critical thinking. Before/after mask mandates doesn't tell us nearly as much as comparing areas over the same period of time that masked or didn't mask.

 

LOL preventative efficacy and deaths (and positive tests) must be inversely related. Think about it.

 

We never wore masks before and somehow managed to survive. Mask mandates are a gimmick to see just how easily you will give up your freedom and kneel to government authority. It's psychological social conditioning. The people who want to control every aspect of our lives know that most people are sheep.

Would you stand up?

 

The science says they work. Lunatic conspiracy theories aren't going to change that. COVID-19 is an actual threat. The Illuminati isn't.

 

I don't think you can draw the conclusion that masks are very effective from this chart. Do you know why?

 

Seriously??? Auto deaths are WAY down exactly because of better safety features.

 

So you're cherry picking a few counties where it looks as if mask mandates work. Ok, if they work then why are others easily finding data showing they didn't have an affect. You're posting data which makes it look like mask mandates work and others are easily countering with data that looks like they don't.

You know what that means? It means it's not the masks that are having an affect, it's something else.

correlation doesn't equal causation.....one of the more fundamental things in statistics.