From the NYT: Texas Judge Strikes Down Obama’s Affordable Care Act as Unconstitutional Excerpt: More than 500 million men, women and children of the European Union are covered today by a National Health Care insurance program. The first of which was established just post-WW2 in the UK. When will Uncle Sam ever learn that national health-care is a basic human right? If the DoD can defend the nation against invasion of an enemy, why should the Dept. of Health not defend defend us against disease and ill health ... ? PS: How does health spending in the U.S. compare to other countries?
Millions of Americans still believe its their basic human right to not be forced to pay for other peoples health care. And thankfully at least one judge agrees. I don't think this will go anywhere though. Its already legal precedent that we can tax folks to pay for other folks stuff. The middle-men who get rich making this happen will use their riches to keep making it happen.
The US Supreme Court has ruled that ACA is legal under the government's authority to tax. I don't know of any provision in the US Constitution which gives a lower federal court superior power over the SC. Am planning to read the judge's ruling soon and will try to find some rational "justification" in it.
Please dont edit my comments for content. If you would like to address a specific point, emboldening, italicizing or underlining are great ways to do that without compromising the context of my words.
Right! But when we go to war anybody's son/daughter will fit the bill. People like you cannot see the totality of a truly democratic republic. Had you taken a course in Civics you might have learned that governments exist to provide services in key-areas where private-enterprise cannot be depended upon to provide an acceptable service at an acceptable cost. (And the US has the most expensive medicine of any developed nation! See here.) There are millions upon millions of Americans who deserve a National Healthcare System like the one I have in Europe. Because I know that as a result my lifespan will likely be 4 years longer than yours in the US! And my taxes cover the costs keeping them acceptable because the government sets the prices! And why? Because health-care is like police-work or firefighting - it is a Public Service ... Aint no middlemen insurance-companies in a National Healthcare System - because the basic-service is provided state-by-state but on a standard cost (per type of care). Moreover, that standard cost is affordable - because it is managed to pay only basic salaries and running costs. The average salary of a GP in the US is nowadays $200K a year. Under a NHS, it would be between 80/85 kilobucks. Comfortable enough, and not a rip-off. In Europe, nobody pays $70K a year to go to Med-School! I asked mine how much his tuition was, and he responded "$1100 a year". What America has not understood is that both Education and Healthcare are fundamental to any society, and therefore their costs should not be determined by a market-economy. And if you think that rational is untrue - then how about making DoD subcontract its personnel from private agencies! After all, war is good business and highly profitable ... !
Thats a lot of words to try and use conscription as a justification for redistribution of wealth... I support neither.
Sorry to have bored you, but, you see, this is a debate forum. Perhaps you'd prefer a Message Board ... ?
Well, you got that write. But, where there's an allegation of income-impropriety there is also - especially in politics - a bundle of good reasons why the "system is rigged". And there is no changing the system if people don't understand why it is rigged. And, then a graphic becomes worth a thousand words. Like this one: Net Worth is Wealth minus Debt. What's different? *The National Debt today is 4-times the amount it was 20 years ago. And nobody seems to care. *The Work-Force Participation Rate is lower today than back then, which means more people simply are not earning income. How that 5% (shown above) who lost their jobs over 20 years subsist is a damn fine question, but it is certainly not by working. *Time will tell when the American people wake up to what is happening; Let's just hope that Donald Dork is the last of his kind. A twit who inherited 40MB from is father and then, against ALL ODDS bounced it up to 3.1BB. Wow! What a useless rip-off of good money! (He walks on water too ... !)
Its rigged by the rich using their money to direct the government which we keep voting to make more powerful. We keep voting to make it more powerful because they tell us through the media (which they own) that if we make it powerful, it can protect us from them. Then its power innevitably protects them from us, usually in the form of regulations that prevent us from opting out of their monopolies, because thats what they want it to do. We The People give the govt its power. They The Rich minority direct the power against us. We make it more powerful, they continue to direct that power. This trend has one innevitable conclusion.
WASHING WHITER THAN WHITE! It is time that we, as a nation, take-it-back! That is not Mission Impossible, and after the midterms neither is it Mission Improbable. We just need to get out the vote ... and that's the hard part. Americans watch more BoobTube than any other people on this planet. (If one doesn't believe that, then see here.) So it is no wonder that a huge amount of TV political advertising goes on TV, which is a manipulation of the mind for political purposes as it is for commercial ends. Politicians advertise themselves as "washing whiter than white" and we gobble it up ...
Absolutely. Everyone should be voting. Also, please dont edit my responses for content. It really bugs me
It's the only way to rebut here. Otherwise the rebuttal gets very confusing since the reason for prompting an answer becomes confused.
I disagree that National Health Care is a basic right that only those people with jobs and who PAY federal income tax, must bear the cost. So if it is a right, just who do you think should pay for it? And, how will you decide how much providers should be paid for their services? We don't price fix what any other Professionals can charge for their services, gut you think it is all right for the Federal gov to dictate what medical providers can charge for their services. Obama care did not provide for regulation of Insurers. They continue to so as they please. And we continue to pay for coverage that is not fully transparent as we were promised. Other forms of Insurance, auto, homeowners, life; clearly spell out EXACTLY what is covered. Health Insurance, not so much.
If the Federal Government can pay for the DoD, which is a Public Service, it can pay as well for Healthcare - as happens for 640 million Europeans today. A Public Service is whatever a country decides it should be. And we should know that both Education and Healthcare are cornerstones to public necessity. Why? Because both escape the laws of Supply&Demand. Both a necessities to a country in order for it to function properly. In fact, Europe has got along just fine since WW2 without much of standing-army but with free national healthcare and free post-secondary education. So, it is no wonder why Europeans live four year longer than Americans (see here) and why more Europeans are graduating with university degrees than in the US. Yes, which is why the US has the highest cost of healthcare of any developed nation. (See that fact proven here.) You're comparing health insurance for humans with car insurance? Uh, that just doesn't hang together. The two "systems" are very, very different in complexity. Healthcare is orders of magnitude more complicated than any other science on earth. It is right and proper that Europeans have all accepted to have government-managed healthcare since WW2. Otherwise, they'd have the same lifespan as Americans ...
