That the US is an imperial hegemon.

Important how? He escalated militarization of space, sure, and continued funding to the CIA in Afghanistan, sure. But the former had no effect on the USSR's demise and the latter, which did have an effect on causing seriously demoralization, can be accredited to Jimmy Carter's admin, not Reagan's.

Well I'm not anti-American and I have only ever used truth. You should try to do the same - you will have completely different conclusions.

LOL
Here is the ICJ website with the rulings of the judges that convicted the US of war crimes in Nicaragua. Enjoy!
http://www.icj-cij.org/docket/index.php?p1=3&p2=3&k=66&PHPSESSID=0ccaae2f4608387e20772603ab6ff257&case=70&code=nus&p3=4

No but Reaganites very much live by that idea.

LOL Outrageous lies, well hey live in your deluded fantasy for as long as you like - the TRUTH is waiting for you. Here's some links on Reagan admin inspired deaths in other nations;
A tribute Reagan
http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/us-relations/polarizing.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvadoran_Civil_War
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guatemalan_Civil_War
http://www.converge.org.nz/lac/articles/news990610b.htm
http://www.zompist.com/latam.html
http://www.marxists.org/archive/harman/2004/06/reagan.htm
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Blum/Nicaragua_KH.html

 

i will address ANY contention you have, only after we are done with GREECE....
the "ends definately justify the means" especially when the alternative is unfathomable!!!!
we are good, and communism is evil on so many levels, so i'm afraid i can't oblige your issue....
"legitimate" is a word you used to describe the communists in greece.....
it is your word, used in context of groups that were undermining the stability of the peloppeneseus.....
i've addressed all your speculations on greece, the facts, presuppose any cabal....
you should be gratefull the US won the COLD WAR, the world has benefitted from our victory, and its about time you realized this well known fact!!!

 

didn't you ridicule me for using wikipedia?
marxist sites?

fact is reagan FORCED the end of the USSR!!!
SDI and reagan forced the USSR to acquiesce....
maybe you should read these:

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB203/index.htm
http://www.slate.com/id/2102081/
http://www.bostonreview.net/BR25.2/zubok.html
http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/Gorbachev-Reagan-100-Newsmax/2011/02/01/id/384666


more to come (after GREECE)

 

Full of anti American BS aka proganda. If you believe this trash you would be capable of believing anything.No wonder the Muslims treat the Euros as trash.

 

All the links he provided happen to be documented facts.Just because you do not want to believe them does not make them anything else.All you are doing is denying reality..

 

It's not necessary to be rude. That's not a sign of strength.

I do agree with you about the American/Australian military relationship. I too wish it were dead. In fact I wish there were no relationship between our countries. Neither country gains by contact with the other. Australia and America have separate destinies.

 

Typical Euro jealousy.They just sit on their big fat ...and wait for the USA to bail them out aka WW11 and the Soviet Union. Nothing has changed. The Euoros are just whingers who wait for someone else to do the dirty work ontheir doorstep.

 

So you have no comeback that was relevant to the facts that I posted so just decided to have a rant...I see where you are coming from..

 

What facts are you talking about? How can anyone believe any facts made up by jealous Euros used to sitting on their big fat ...whilst soemeone else does the heavy work for them. Maybe we should have let them stay in the warm embrace of the Soviet Union.

 

I see you have problems with logical thought. Maybe you should go back to kindergarden and start to learn all over again. But then, it might also be a total waste of time since your head is brimful of anti-Americanm spitefull hatred. No doubt you would have been happier to see the Soviet Gulags or the Nazi's gas chambers. Or maybe you haven't heard of these two horrific events of the last century and are only capable of recollecting those events that satisify your perverse hatred of anything pertaining to the USA.

 

and yet again you are having a problem reading and understanding plain English..Could not find your mummy to help you?

 

Well it seems you must have thrown your dummy away.Can't you find another one? I understand they are very cheap. I am hapyy to post one to you.

 

and yet again I see your mummy is not around to hold your hand. Is there some reason that you cannot keep track of what has been said? Brain tumor? Lack of education? Bad eyes?You are ranting on about stuff I have not even mentioned..but you cannot grasp what I have mentioned..so I will repeat it as you have major problems..The links that you claimed were all propaganda are not they are facts and to claim that they are propaganda just goes to show that you have not got a clue what the (*)(*)(*)(*) you are talking about and bouncing back again and again posting about something completely different just shows that you cannot keep track of plain English..Anyway I cannot keep holding your hand..you will have to grow up one day and learn facts...

If you think all those links are bull(*)(*)(*)(*) then point out one thing in them that is not a fact...bet you cannot..

 

Don't worry,dummies are very cheap. Are you too afraid to accept one from me ? Don't worry, there's no charge. It's a wonder your vehment, hysterical anti- American propaganda doesn't choke you to death. A dummie just might help to keep your hysteria down to acceptable levels.

 

I thought you said history cant be studied in a vacuum? You should take your own advice.

Now I know where you stand.

You're wrong but anyway....

You haven't addressed anything, you should start by showing me where YOU stated, and you said you had already explained, where your definition of 'legitimate' is.

 

Yes, I accept your defeat. LOL

 

just a point here, are you talking about the ideals of communism as being good or evil or the example provided to date of communism?

I do think the USSR has shown in the past that their structure has proven to be far from good (in practice) but the intention of communism is ultimatly good, just extremely easily corruptable.

 

If I was rude, I apologize.

Actually they gain substantially - in the military sense, only where we use shared facilities to perform exercises which the Chinese also use - separate from US 'defence' facilities(so they should still go) and through our free trade agreement.

LOL Yeah latter is falling, whilst the former is rising in prosperous - 4th in the world by latest research.

 

Was I talking to you then? I merely added those 1. Wikipedia just because this guy clearly doesn't know anything, also I didn't say Wikipedia was bad I said it was lazy. 2. The Marxist site, I admit was hypocritical in that the article was from a Marxist site, but Chris Harmon didn't use any Marxist rhetoric like your links did - ie he was addressing the issue of Reagan's crimes in a more relevant and less biased sense. Besides you can cut out that link anyway, I would in fact encourage you.

LOL Fact is he didn't, all he did was force tyranny on South America.

Actually maybe you should, since they prove my point;

I suggest you read through this, the points made clearly validate my contention. The initiative was taken before Reagan made a move - indeed many years before, to peace and reform. The end of the USSR was entirely a Soviet achievement.

This article also proves my point although still grasps at the deluded idea Reagan won - they even admit he only contributed once he got on board with the Soviets; "a second-term conversion to detente and disarmament."

This one actually shows exactly me point - the Soviets took the initiative for both ending the arms race AND ending the cold war through reform, particularly under Gorbachev;
"[Gorbachev] and his entourage wanted to reform the Soviet Union, to lead the country out of the dangerous deadlock of "stagnation." In the opinion of the reformers around Gorbachev, the heavy emphasis by the Brezhnev leadership on achieving strategic parity with the United States had prevented projects of domestic restructuring and blocked all attempts to promote non-military branches of the economy and raise standards of living. Gorbachev wanted to return to these projects and bring them to fruition. And advancing those domestic concerns meant stopping the arms race."

Again, this one shows Reagan was SLOW to accept reforms of the USSR when it came to a peaceful conclusion through nuclear disarmament;
“President Reagan, however, liked the program it was his pet project, perhaps his favorite girl,” Gorbachev said with a smile. “He wanted SDI. It seemed a little strange to me. Many people said that such defense is probably unrealistic . . . Reagan liked perhaps the movie, the ‘Star Wars’ movie, but I think that, as president he should have understood it’s not the movies — we must not make ourselves hostage to mistakes.”
This one was extraordinarily biased (supportive of Reagan) but still proves my point. It is interesting to note that while the Soviets pushed for reform and peace, the US moved to further militarize politics - engaging in its 'star wars' project that saw the dooms day clock reach its highest since the Cuban missile crisis.

Again Greece is one of MANY. I have already won on that point anyway.

 

Also, I'm still trying to find that book so I can discuss the nature of US foreign policy and hence its imperialistic attitudes, so you'll have to give me some time. But trust me, the wait will be worth it.

 

No I agree communism, at least its Soviet form, is evil - but that I disagree on America being 'good'.

Basically, yes.

 

There is a very old force reasserting itself in American foreign policy thinking. It is a form of neo-isolationism of the type that prevailed in America during the period from 1920 through 1941. Neo-isolationism is itself an offshoot of the isolationist school of thought that prevailed in America without interruption from 1789 through 1897.

Australia and America have no relationship other than rudimentary trade under neo-isolationist thinking.

 

we both agreed that we would NOT entertain attacks, support our positions with facts, and take ONE issue at a time....
i will be absolutely elated to entertain all your faux criticisms of America, but we will have to tackle these ONE step at a time....
you agreed....
also, tackling an issue has absolutely nothing to do with addressing issues that as of 1940's haven't occurred yet....
quite frankly, i do not deserve the rebuke....
because when we do study history, we do address the issues contemplated by addressing all the parameters facing these policy makers, not the events which which unforseen at the time of their conception....
with that, we must review history as if America was part of the whole, not in a vacuum.....

i stated the same premise early on, the "ends definately justify the means"
the containment of communism justified American policy, just as it justified soviet policy, and when comparing the two, as we should, it is painfully obvious, that the world IS better that America WON!!!!

you stated in post 1
the US assisted its colonial allies in resisting legitimate local forces in Greece
(your word)
you used the term to justify the communist insurgency of greece.....
i've already addressed several times, that you must not be enamoured with "in name only"....
that there were outside agencies that promoted these "legitimate local forces", which at some point included all the usual suspects:
i.e. comintern, cominform etc....

 

first of all;
under your definition of imperial, the US does not, and is not imperial...
your definition!!!!!
you quote liberal critique chalmers johnson, REWORKING of a definition to fit his own, anti-Bush agenda.....
i was always taught,
"that if it looks like it, feels like, tastes like it and smells like it, than it is it"

the reading, (already provided) is ABSOLUTELY relevant, because as you stated in post #4
hence there was no actual threat of USSR domination in Greece
the reading therefore suggests that your premise is WRONG!!!
the export of communism was tantamount to the success of soviet influence, and what stood in their way was the (*)(*)(*)(*)ed truman doctrine.....
so therefore it is totally relevant, or i wouldn't of posted it....

 

The US will be sharing hegmoney with China and Russia in Central Asia.