The Abraham Lincoln Myth...

Nearly every day, bus loads of black children, and other people, visit the Lincoln Memorial in Washington DC. They consider Lincoln a hero to Blacks.

But they sure are ignorant of History. I guess they don't teach true history in school.

Never been there, but I wonder if this actual quote by Lincoln is written at the Memorial...

"...I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race..." Can you imagine that? And Blacks idolize this guy? Yea he said that in a debate for US Senator with Stephen A. Douglas at Charleston, Illinois, September 18, 1858.

He also said this..."I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races, that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people..."

For those unknowing and unbelieving people who are clueless about Lincoln, here is the US National Park service website...https://www.nps.gov/liho/learn/historyculture/debate4.htm

This is not the only example of Lincoln being the "Great Emancipator" as being a total crock of BS. But hey, its history, some people don't know it. And some people hide the truth.

After a discussion on these Lincoln quotes... Maybe I will tell the unknowing, and historically ignorant, more truths about Lincoln. For some reason his true history is not taught in schools.

Everyone has to believe in something. But if anyone thinks Lincoln was the "Great Emancipator" sorry that is a myth.

 

I call him Abe the outlaw.

 

We all know that Lincoln was a man of his time. He was a politician, and was ruthless when he needed to be. Despite his limitations, he did seize the initiative and sign the Emancipation Proclamation. And he did succeed in crushing the traitors of the south. This alone is enough to make him the greatest US president.

 

Did not Lincoln bypass Congress and sign the Emancipation Proclamation, which eventually changed the status of about 3 million slaves to
free? If signing that executive order does not earn Lincoln the right to the title of an emancipator, then perhaps you can show
an example of an American who freed more slaves? I know that technically such a proclamation did not apply until
the slaves were behind Union lines -- but eventually it was the basis for the initial process.

One must also remember Lincoln in the context of the times - to judge him through a 150 year old rear view mirror as you
are doing is lazy research.

 

Well if trashing the US Constitution makes one an outlaw... Lincoln certainly was that. But violating the Presidential oath of office, that he swore to uphold, makes Lincoln worse than an outlaw.

 

Secession of States was not prohibited by the Constitution. So it was legal based on the 10th Amendment. (States Rights). So the only "traitor" was Lincoln. Furthermore, the Emancipation Proclamation was illegal and violated US law. Slavery was protected by the US Supreme Court at the time.

 

Bypassing Congress is a violation of the Constitution.

 

By your standards. General Washington is a traitor.

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Are you trying to teach Democrats correct history?

Who controls education all over America?

But keep trying.

I call Abe the outlaw.

 

Lincoln was so against slavery that he married into a prominent slave owning family (The Todds).

 

Good read

 

I agreed with you, Lincoln was an outlaw.

 

George Washington was a traitor. Had he lost he would have hung for his crime, and deservedly so. But he did not lose, and so it is he became the father of a new nation.

I am not British, and I do not care if Washington was a traitor to the empire. I am an American, and I do care about the traitors to the United States. It is a tragedy of history that Lee, Davis, et al, were not hung for their crimes. It is an even greater tragedy that Reconstruction was not allowed to finish its job of crushing the treason of the south - a treason that continues to this day.

 

It was later I saw you say that.

This reviews the book I named.

https://www.amazon.com/South-Right-...the+south+was+right+by+james+&+walter+kennedy
I actually read this book, prior to review ...
By A Customer on March 13, 2000
Format: Hardcover

 

Holy cow

And no doubt you are the product of the Democrats form of teaching school to our nations children.

 

Well the South lost and some of their leaders were indeed arrested or indicted for treason. But since secession was legal, according to the Constitution, and the best lawyers the US had, these Confederate leaders were released.

Had the South won the war, Lincoln could have been hanged for his war crimes. Instead he was shot.

 

Slavery was just one of those institutions where protecting it constitutionally was just flat wrong and most of the enlightened world had come to that realization by 1860. Calling Lincoln an outlaw is one of those "who tf cares" kinda things, but doing so does make you seem like a dope.

 

Well I guess if you cant debate the truth, calling someone a dope (personal insult) makes one feel better despite the rules violation.

 

Lincoln, as a lawyer, went to court and argued to have a runaway female slave and her children returned to their rightful slave owner. The "Matson slave trial". The Great Emancipator

 

Why don,t you post a copy of the 10 th amendment so we can all see that you are wronged than wrong.

 

"I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so." Lincoln's First Inaugural Address, March 4, 1861.

 

Well, if you feel your right to own slaves has been impinged upon by the Emancipation Proc, you're welcome to try and take
your case to the courts ...

Good luck with that.

 

Hey a lot of BS has been thought about history. We as kids were never told that Christopher Columbus "discovered the new world " by accident when the buffoon thought that he actually "found" India.

 

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, [secession] are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

10th Amendment: The Bill of Rights.

 

The Vikings discovered the new World at least 500 years before Columbus. Saint Brendan "the Navigator" (Irish) 500 years before that. And the Indians were already here for a couple thousand years.

 

The famous Emancipation Proclamation did not free a single slave of any Union State. Lincoln's own country.