The atomic bombs dropped in WW2 were unecessary.

Misremembering, exaggerating, or lying. Dwight D. Eisenhower was many things. Many great things. But he was still only human. And all humans lie.

 

As were all the others who said something similar. It was a giant conspiracy. I blame the Illuminati

 

You have not cited any opinions of "military experts" that can be confirmed as being made BEFORE Hiroshima to support what you claim.

If you knew anything about military history you would know there was considerable doubt even among "military experts" as to whether the atomic bomb used on Hiroshima would even work (remember it was different than the one tested at Trinity).

 

The military experts said it was not needed. Your claim is they are all lying. It is quite funny.

Must be the Illuminati

 

What about Army Chief of Staff General Marshall who supported the atomic bombings. I provided a link for that in the other thread.

 

Oh he was lying. Your theory is all my guys were lying but your ONE GUY was telling the truth....is that right? LOL

 

According to this link

http://origins.osu.edu/history-news/hiroshima-military-voices-dissent

Dwight Eisenhower made his claim that he voiced opposition to the use of the atomic bombs in July, 1945...……..in 1963!!!

So fully EIGHTEEN years later. After he had exited the presidency for that matter and was trying to cement his historical legacy.

 

I'm surprised that nobody posted the story that I understood to be the reason for those bombings. I thought it was widely accepted.

What I understood is that they were dropped to show Russia that we had working bombs, and that we would use them.

 

Except I got a dozen more....how many do you have again? LOL

 

EXACTLY RIGHT

 

From what I read, General Marshall advised Truman to use the bomb at that time. So we are not talking about (as with Eisenhower) someone claiming to have said something eighteen years later.

 

If you did you would've already posted them.

I can find links to support mine all day long. You can't do the same.

 

I posted it in the op.

You are hilarious

 

Prove it

 

You lose:

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Trumans-decision-to-use-the-bomb-712569

From the link

Scientists and the atomic bomb
Among those who had full knowledge of the Manhattan Project to build an atomic bomb, most agreed that the weapon should be used. However, sharp dissent came from a group of scientists at the project’s facilities at the University of Chicago. Their leader, Leo Szilard, along with two prestigious colleagues, Walter Bartkey, a dean of the University of Chicago, and Harold Urey, director of the project’s research in gaseous diffusion at Columbia University, sought a meeting with Truman but were diverted to Byrnes, who received them with polite skepticism. As he listened to them argue that the United States should refrain from using the bomb and that it should share its atomic secrets with the rest of the world after the war, Byrnes felt that he was dealing with unworldly intellectuals who had no grasp of political and diplomatic realities. He neither took their suggestions seriously nor discussed them with Truman, who most likely would have shared his attitude anyway. Szilard and his associates seem to have represented only a small minority of the many hundreds of scientists who worked on the bomb project. In July 1945 project administrators polled 150 of the 300 scientists working at the Chicago site and could find only 19 who rejected any military use of the bomb and another 39 who supported an experimental demonstration with representatives of Japan present, followed by an opportunity for surrender. Most of the scientists, however, supported some use of the bomb: 23 supported using it in a way that was militarily “most effective,” and 69 opted for a “military demonstration in Japan” with an opportunity for surrender “before full use of the weapons.” In later years, several key figures, including General Dwight D. Eisenhower, General Douglas MacArthur, Admiral William Leahy, and Assistant Secretary of War John J. McCloy, claimed to have opposed using the bomb, but there is no firm evidence of any substantial contemporary opposition.

 

In the writers opinion.

You got nothing

I have their personal quotes... men of honor

 

Evidence.

 

No. Not for you. Even when it is so easy

 

That is a good article.

 

Vegas giants likes to promote the idea that the U.S. actually lost the war with Japan because we allowed them to keep their emperor when we had demanded "unconditional surrender".

What he fails to admit that anyone with common sense realizes is that the winning side in a war can change their demands and conditions pretty much at will.

 

Are you saying "men of honor" never lie? Or make mistakes about what they said YEARS before?

 

That is definitely a part of it. Look I don't think we will ever really know whether Japan would have surrendered. I see no evidence that it was

it was going to happen, but question:

How long were we supposed to wait before invading? An invasion would take thousands more lives than the bombs and yes, children would have been part of the fight. If that had happened, it would have been referred too as one of the most brutal if not most brutal invasions in history. We dropped the bomb for multiple reasons the 2 at the core being.
1. Show Russia what we could do.
2. End the war as quickly as possible with the least lives lost (assuming Japan was not going to surrender.

Honestly it's hard to say whether it was necessary or not as we simply do not know what Japan was going to do. The military junge in Japan did not want to surrender. So the president made the hard choice, with the facts he had at hand. Wait, knowing more lives are going to be lost during this time and do nothing, during which Japan has time to build up a defense, invade and we know the consequences of that, or drop the bombs. It was simply a probability cost analysis problem. I know that sounds inhuman but it was war.

One word, radio.

 

He should have listened to his military experts

 

Ok your one guy lied. You are hilarious

 

False. Do not misrepresent my position again. The US won the war with japan