The Berniephobes are wrong

https://www.axios.com/bernie-sander...ace-bee5b692-a0ca-449a-a714-4c212ad15010.html
Look to Bloomberg to start paying off some of the other dems campaign debts.. he's "encouraging" other candidates to drop out so Bernie can be stopped.

 

Making uninformed comments about socialism.

Better to fight against socialism with the truth.

 

Are you a Bernie supporter?

 

Socialism goes against human nature. People want to work and keep what they’ve earned.

 

Irrelevant. Teachers have "real jobs." You have no clue.

P.S. No, I think Sanders is dangerous to the economy.

 

"My fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." - JFK

 

It's a real job... just not in the real world. (Ie, business).

Glad to hear youre not a Berniebot. Sounds like that time away from teaching did some good.

 

I'm not a Trumpbot, either.

Trump is creating huge assets bubbles with low interest interest rates. He's doing everything he can, consequences be damned, to prevent a slowdown before November.

 

It's good you know what Trump's thinking. Reading minds comes in handy at election time.

 

Only problem is i said the same thing as you but i posted the reality of it vs the clinical definition.

 

Completely unrelated to the subject. He wasn't suggesting subservience to the government. He was suggesting engagement with the society and culture.

 

Sorry, I didn't mean to upset you. It's just that's where my mind went when I thought of your position on socialism, that it seemed strange and backwards.

 

Then why is Bernie beating Trump in all the latest polling?

 

Except we evolved in groups based upon cooperation and sharing within each tribe . And we lived like this exponentially longer than the way we do now.

Socialism and communism have their elites too with the top dogs having the luxuries. At least with some forms of capitalism a society can have a significant middle class along with the poor and the rich as long as the rich dont corrupt it to mostly benefit themselves .

Only cons have a problem with redistributing surplus income to help the less intelligent and gifted. The traditional liberal believes in having a Commons financed by capitalism .

You have the dog eat dog people and you have other people who believe in a Commons to help the people not gifted and with lower IQs. And we have always had both kinds of people.

At the end of the day it really is about basic morality . The cooperation and sharing common in tribal societies was driven by pure survival of man who survived by the greater safety in numbers . The con mindset is the luxury of civilization where every member is not needed and can be cast aside. Yet in times of survival like ww2 we revert to what is natural and the lines of class weaken and the less gifted and lower IQs are once again valued and not looked down on by the cons.

And for a time that society is healthier as we cannot afford the con mindset .

 

In fact, the political Obama has always been a product of crony capitalism. You need to find better sources of information. Partisan political propaganda can be very misleading. Google: "Obama's Sugar Mama".

“Penny Pritzker was Barack Obama’s first billionaire…. For Pritzker, heiress to the Hyatt Hotel fortune, serving on the board was a civic duty that came with wealth. For Obama, who had recently returned to Chicago from Harvard Law School, the Annenberg Challenge was his coming out as a member of the city’s elite. He was elected its chairman, and used it as a resume line when he ran for state senate in 1996. (The Annenberg Challenge’s greatest legacy was as a networking opportunity for the future president. A University of Illinois at Chicago study found it had “little impact on student incomes.”)

When Obama was thinking of running for the Senate, he knew he had to raise millions of dollars. So he asked his best friend, Marty Nesbitt, the vice president of Pritzker Realty Group, to arrange a meeting with his boss. … Her support attracted several more liberal millionaires, including Newton Minow and James Crown. On Primary Night 2004, Obama held his victory party at the Hyatt. Pritzker was finance chair of Obama’s 2008 presidential campaign, but now, reports The New York Times, the sugar mama has become disillusioned. After the election, Obama passed her up for Commerce Secretary, because she was too rich, and she became the target of a campaign by the Service Employees International Union, which was protesting Hyatt’s replacement of nonunion chambermaids with even lower-paid contract workers.”
NBC NEWS, Obama’s Sugar Mama, By Edward McClelland, Published July 16, 2012 • Updated on July 16, 2012 at 1:51 pm.
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-politics/obamas-sugar-mama/1932311/

 

In fact, primitive tribal cultures before contact with civilization were almost always engaged in total warfare against rival tribes.

"He winds up by emphasizing what he calls "the crucial importance of the physical circumstantial evidence produced and interpreted by archeologists." Although anyone can glibly argue that a witness to homicide is lying, "it is certainly difficult to bowdlerize or dismiss an arrow point embedded in a victim's spine."
He concludes: "The moral of this story is that historical records are usually biased and then subject to every whim and rhetorical device of historians." But "the physical circumstantial evidence already available repeatedly attests that what transpired before the evolution of civilized states was often unpleasantly bellicose."
He quotes Thoreau's remark, when he suspected his milkman of watering the milk, "Some circumstantial evidence is very strong, as when you find a trout in the milk."
"War Before Civilization" is a convincing exercise in pointing out the trout in the milk."

NEW YORK TIMES, BOOKS OF THE TIMES; Even in Eden, It Seems, War Was Hell, By CHRISTOPHER LEHMANN-HAUPT, Reviewing WAR BEFORE CIVILIZATION, The Myth of the Peaceful Savage, JULY 18, 1996.
https://www.nytimes.com/1996/07/18/books/books-of-the-times-even-in-eden-it-seems-war-was-hell.html

 

Teachers are important - and it doesn't get much more "real world" than grappling with a class of 30 teenagers - trying to get them to learn.

 

Fake Polls = MSM = Fake News.

Google: "DEWEY WINS!"

 

No, the polls had Clinton winning the popular vote, which she did. That's not fake, that happened. Polls predict the vote winner, not the EC winner.

So why is Trump losing to Bernie in all these polls?

 

People like an economy that works for everyone, and people want to contribute at above poverty level.

When informed of the reality of wealth distribution today, most people are in favour of raising taxes on income or wealth.

Fact: 90% of total household wealth is held by the top 20% of the population, while the bottom 20% of the population has negative wealth (with average debt of $6000).

 

The RCP average had Clinton up by 7 as late as 10 days before the elections. Political polls are essentially Fake News fake news crafted to raise money and suppress the anti-establishment vote.

"The polls were unequivocal. In 2016, two days before Michigan’s Democratic primary, the respected Marist poll predicted that Hillary Clinton would win in a landslide, with 57 percent of the vote to Bernie Sanders’s 40 percent. On the morning of the March 8 primary, James Hohmann of The Washington Post wrote, “Michigan should have been fertile territory for Bernie Sanders’s populist and protectionist message, but he’s expected to lose the Democratic primary there today by double digits.” That night is mostly remembered for the marathon coverage of a bizarre press conference in which Donald Trump, who had just won three primaries of his own, shamelessly hawked Trump Steaks and Trump Wine. But if TV viewers had squinted at the crawl, they would have noticed that Sanders was pulling off a stunning, poll-defying upset—defeating Clinton by 1.5 percent. At the time, Nate Silver called it “among the ***GREATEST POLLING ERRORS*** in primary history.”
THE NEW REPUBLIC, The Polling Industry Is in Crisis, Everyone knows the numbers are as unreliable as ever, and yet the political press still hypes every little rise and fall., By WALTER SHAPIRO, June 21, 2019.
https://newrepublic.com/article/154124/polling-industry-crisis

 

I see you have moved on from the TINA fallacy to the "get a real job" drivel, when the private sector by definition is unable to employ everyone, as specified by the NAIRU concept of neoliberal economics.

 

ITA Never said they aren't important or their job is easy.

Take Barack Obama, for example...

 

Then why do you like Trump so much - A President who makes Obama look like a Fiscal Conservative !

 

You're admitting the RCP average correctly predicted the vote winner. They were off by 5.

The RCP average has Bernie up by 5 right now against Trump. Are you claiming it's off by five again, against Bernie? That would make it a dead heat. Do you think if we held the election today, it would be a dead heat??? That's not where the incumbent wants to be. Not against a loon like Bernie.