The Big Lie is (unfortunately) winning

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  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I can factually refute your claims all day long. https://www.factcheck.org/2019/03/dossier-not-what-started-all-of-this/

    Anything else?
     
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    I don’t know if “in on it” is the right word, but Kemp and his pal Raffesnsperger sure did sweep the Fulton County fiasco under the rug.
     
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    Who cares? They got away with it. What’s done is done. We should be bracing for all of the future biden disasters and forget about the big steal
     
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    Who got away with what?

    How can we move on when so many of The Following continue to believe in the Big Lie? What's worse, Repub controlled legislatures are designing new laws based on the Big Lie. Candidates like Elder are running on the Big Lie. Folks like Cheney are being drummed out of leadership positions in the POT and the minority leader in the House is basing his 2022 strategy on the Big Lie.
     
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    Good. Democrats made a mess of the 2020 election and adjustments were absolutely necessary.
     
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    The only audit has been in Phoenix. And we havent gotten any results yet. Theyve been challenged every step of the way and access to critical information has been refused. And recounting of the same stacks of uncreased, mail in ballots or recounting stacks of mail in ballots in sequential numerical order tellls us nothing. Audits are being opposed anywhere they are requested.
     
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    The audits were done before the electors were certified. Just like always.

    The fraudit in AZ is not an official audit. It's a scam.
     
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    Nope.
     
  9. Lee Atwater

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    By Repubs. https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...-in-arizona-recount-makes-us-look-like-idiots

    Keep looking. I'm sure those ballots flown in from Asia with the bamboo will turn up any time now.

    A GOP state senator blasted the 2020 election vote audit in an Arizona county, saying “it makes us look like idiots.”

    “Looking back, I didn’t think it would be this ridiculous. It’s embarrassing to be a state senator at this point,” Arizona state Sen. Paul Boyer, who previously supported the audit in Maricopa County, added on Friday, according to The New York Times.
     
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    people reap what they sow. Weaponizing the pandemic to switch the voting system to PAPER will always be viewed as suspect by many. Even if the big steal is a big lie it doesn’t matter anymore. The damage is done and many will not trust the system again. Voting could have been done by being staggered across more days to make for less crowds with masks and distancing but instead they opted for super easy to fraud PAPER votes.
    They are gonna have to deal with the Republican voting laws. Actions have consequences
    Deal!
     
  11. Lee Atwater

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    Personally think the country is going to **** under the current administration lead by a dude who is suffering from dementia.

    If I were a democrat , I'd probably be more worried about Biden's mental health and him surviving for at least three more years otherwise we get stuck with a ****ing diversity hire for the presidency.

    Which really does lower the GD bar. "How did you get presidency, Mrs Harris?"

    "I'm a female and I claimed to be black!"

    That's how the Democratic party works now.

    Lol
     
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    Turns out Kamala isn't the only one on the Biden-Harris ticket with slave owners in his/her past. Joe Biden's family owned slaves, too. So out of ALL the candidates available in 2020 for the Democrat primary, Democrats chose the old rich white guy with dementia whose family owned slaves. You can't make up this level of irony.
     
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    Well, since he isn't suffering from dementia your opinion is worth nothing.
     
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    Nope. Phoenix is the first and only complete audit.
     
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    After the fact, with no results. Funny.

    It doesn't count.
     
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    You wish to question factual-evidence? And what next?

    That judges should have periodic sessions with psychiatrists in order to keep their "mental balance" ... ?
     
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    "Lets assume for a moment" is hypothetical, not factual.

    Judges? Uh what?
     
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    Great "debate"! Meaningless one-liner exchanges all-the-way!

    What used to be a good Debate Forum is now a Message Board? Apparently ...
     
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    If you already know he cheated, then that's already been verified.

    Crazy upside down logic.
     
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    You are having way too much fun at this. ;-)
     
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    God, what a painfully depressing thread.

    I actually disagreed with your OP premise but having read the thread, I agree. There is nothing that can be done to convince these people. Just to add to the incredulity, the obvious fact that it was mostly republican-controlled electorates and RW/Trump Judges that dismiss the Big Lie appears to make no difference either.

    I think if the Republicans were to put up a decent moderate conservative in 2024 and go on to win the Presidency, there would be cries of rigged Primaries.

    The only solution I can think of is to feed MAGA little scraps for self mastication, but to keep them out of power and as far from the Presidency as legitimately possible.
     
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