The Big Lie is (unfortunately) winning

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  1. AmericanNationalist

    AmericanNationalist Well-Known Member

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    Defense aid largely also includes foreign aid, it's a bit of budget shuffling. The traditional con game played by both sides of the aisle. I started out my life as a Liberal, before being disenfranchised by the current state of the Democratic Party. So I still have my sympathies towards streamlining the military's outsized budget, most concerning is that the money isn't even going towards where they should go. The
    VAT is underfunded, the logistic supplies are outdated at times, money is instead going towards either the maintaining of our aging nuclear weapons program, or other superweapons that apparently are ineffective, similar to how Germany was starting to collapse from its misguided programs in the final days of the Nazi regime.

    It's time to streamline military spending for a robust, cost-effective US Military. And all of these efforts to, are for home. Basically I put our civic domestic needs above all other considerations. It's the government's #1 responsibility.
     
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    Lolwut?:roflol:

    You are actually hanging your hat on that?

    Well, I heard this somewhere on the intetnet, and it was "Never Proven Untrue":

    CLAIM: Bigfoot and Bat Boy live in a secluded igloo (in a secret location) in what is considered to be an Uninhabited Part of Baffin Island. However, it really isn't Uninhabited (B/c BB and BF live there).

    I was thinking the claim was BS, but (after reading your post) now it is clear that the "Claim" must be "correct" since it was Never Proven Untrue!
    I may even try to send them a Xmas Card.

    "Bigfoot and Bat Boy live in a secluded igloo in a secret location what is considered to be an Uninhabited Part of Baffin Island. However, it really isn't Uninhabited (B/c BB and BF live there)"*

    * never proven untrue
     
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    Spin? They reported as the poll stated that 56% of Americans do not have confidence that elections reflect the will of the people.
    You can stop reaching for stars. You're not convincing anyone

    When you lack confidence in elections where the ONLY outcome of elections is voter tabulation, what was it that stood out for you (and nobody else on the planet) that they couldn't possibly be talking about fraudulent votes?
     
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    Is that why they paused counting in several states, waited days, and had midnight dumps of ballots, or ran ballots through the machines multiple times, lol? Sure they knew. They have a data feed.
     
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    The fact that elections are fraudulent and illegitimate isn't a Conservative principal, at least not originally. They adopted this from libertarians, and more specifically we anarchists.

    ...and it's about time.

    I do remember when liberals like many members of the Chicago 7 believed it as well, but today's liberals are so overwhelmingly statist and authoritarian that they wouldn't dream of it. I'll give it some time though, because when it fits thier agenda, they'll flip back.
     
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    The only reason you people feel that way is because you are parroting trump’s big lie.
    if he had acted like an adult, instead of a malignant narcissist, his cult wouldn’t have tried to stage an insurrection and they wouldn’t still be spouting bullshit about stolen elections.
     
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    Yet just about everyone that thinks the election was stolen thinks that Biden did not really get 81 million votes across the country. Perhaps you are the exception, but you are the only one I have met so far.
     
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    They could be, I never said they could not be. But they could also be talking about gerrymandering or even the EC. There are many things they could lead them to not have confidence the will of the people is being represented
     
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    And this was the title of the article....100% spin.
    The Big Lie is (unfortunately) winning
     
  11. EyesWideOpen

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    So, you are upset that more people are becoming red pilled, and see the corruption in government for what it is? Cry me a river.
     
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    I don't know that I'd cheat anymore than I had to, were I inclined to cheat an election.
     
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    Corruption and massive voter fraud without evidence are two different things.
     
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    Speaking of gerrymandering. I recently saw TV news broadcast, where they showed a precinct map in Maryland. It's just insane how they draw these maps, and then claim the other political party is the one that's corrupt.

    https://planning.maryland.gov/Redistricting/Documents/2010Maps/Leg/Statewide-32015.pdf
     
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    Just telling you what most say.

    Also, if I were inclined to cheat an election I would not have just done POTUS and not the House and Senate as well.
     
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    How could anyone conceive they were talking about gerrymandering or the EC with this provision
    That the rules around voting are not strict enough to prevent illegal votes from being cast
    Which was supported by a vote of 56%

    Kind of puts the whole claim of idiots hired to run polls, or talking about gerrymandering, or talking about the EC to bed, doesn't it.

    It also puts to bed the idea that the title of the article is 100% spin.
    The Big Lie is (unfortunately) winning
     
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    Where did you get this number?
     
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    Except that I was only quoting the section where people were losing confidence in our voting system. so why did you go off on a tangent, and infer i meant a distinction between corruption and evidence of corruption?

    i feel that people lose faith in the voting process when the laws, rules and protocol set into law, to control elections, was so easily dismissed, altered and ignored on the fly, by unelected election boards, governors and courts. When only the state legislature may decide the Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives. So when people see the their local election laws tossed around like a fruit salad, they lose faith that their votes are being protected and properly counted and applied to the vote tally.
     
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    Because if this....only 36% think that Biden did not win legitimately...thus the lack of confidence must be in something than other the Big Lie

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    We alll shared a common identity as Americans and the same basic political identity and goals. Trump didn't change that, he's closer to it than those driving the complete rebuild of America.

    It can't be "Built Back Better" till it is so destroyed that it needs rebuilding. That is what the shutdown offered and the government subsidies funded. People are much more malleable if they depend on the government for their income and that is exactly where we stand today.
     
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    Yup, that's another odd looking one. I really wonder what logic and reason is presented to justify defend this stuff.
     
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    ZERO yes ZERO votes for Romney in Philly in 2012 ??????????
     
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    I would also point out that both Trump and Elder have claimed the recall was stolen due to fraud. And nobody is taking them seriously, not even the Trumpians on this forum.
     
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    Well, when people hear that election laws are being changed on the fly, and suddenly mail-in ballots will just be willy-nilly mailed out to every name in the voter database, and signature verification are not really important, and votes can be received late and maybe even without envelopes, people's confidence slumps, because it seems like proper voting protections are not taking place.
     
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