Ah .... so you're reduced to the outliers to support this 'no fault' position. Homeless women? abusive partners? Let's focus on the vast majority of cases of NTDs in the First World, shall we. Those occurring in non-homeless, non-abused women who've simply made very poor choices when it comes to diet. And make no mistake, these choices are made from gluttony and laziness. They want high caloric foods and quick satiation, and don't want to have to actually cook (from scratch, or even at all).
Talking about it openly every chance I get. You hadn't noticed? Edited to add: pretending it's no one's fault is the very opposite of helping.
YUP! Which is why Anti-Choicers should butt out of other's responsibilities Yup, again, HER responsibility ( for HER unborn children)... No one is suggesting that ...
Finding fault, especially where YOU have no facts to back up your claim all women who babies have birth defects are guilty of something, is the opposite of helping. ...and your "talking about it" (lecturing people on how bad they are) is hardly practical help...
Perhaps you haven't heard, and that would be amazing for a man who professes such expertise, but....pregnant women have been warned about eating large quantities of certain fish because of the mercury content. It really is quite difficult to be informed of every food one MUST eat and every food one MUST avoid. And JFYI, frozen vegetables have been found to be even more nutritious than fresh in some instances.
NO!, not everyone has access to healthy foods...and YOU saying they do doesn't make it true. Not everyone has access to stores that have healthy foods that are cheap enough to buy. I think it's hilarious, your frustration with humans being human...it really won't end... Good thing there's abortion....
We're ONLY discussing Neural Tube Defects, which are preventable via nutritious diet. Talking about it openly reminds people that it's preventable, via nutritious diet. Pretending that it isn't preventable via nutritious diet, is the worst thing we can do.
On the contrary, I'm discussing the very flaws in our nature which you guys seem determined to pretend don't exist.
It would be amazing, were I a man. And were I a man who knew little of this stuff. You lucked out on both counts.
FoxHastings said: ↑ I think it's hilarious, your frustration with humans being human...it really won't end... Good thing there's abortion.... OH BS! I have repeatedly told YOU that women are humans and humans are flawed and no amount of sanctimonious self righteous preaching will make them perfect.
exactly, it's like saying a child being born of rape means one has to support rape cause without rape the child would of never been born one can support the women choosing not to be raped and support a women choosing to have a rapists baby the choice is the womens in both cases, pro-choicers do not want the government to decide for women, we want them to be able to choose for themselves... pro-lifers want a nanny government that chooses for them
That is so true! Righties accuse the left of wanting a nanny state and too much government but Righties sure don't mind Bigger Government if it comes to taking away women's rights and controlling them like cattle!!! Of course once women give birth the Right says, "Tough, you and your kid are on your own, we're cutting funding to every entity that aids those "precious lives" !!!
Not completely preventable Can you ensure that one specific case was caused by folate deficiency and not some other factor? Do you realise that sunlight can reduce folate levels? https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/03/140321095240.htm In fact this has been postulated as a theory as to why people indigenous to tropical areas of the planet have darker skins
And actually doing nothing about the issue Yeah helpful NOT!!! When was the last time you donated money to a women’s shelter to ensure that the women there were getting a good diet?
No they have come from having the wrong skin colour https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0190962202497708 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2007/07/skin-color-vitamin-d-folate/#.XH2aT4p_WhA Blonde hair fair skin and blue eyes living in a country like Australia will do it nicely
However, there is Medicaid. The child would have been helped in hospitals for children that the parents do not have to pay. There are quite a few of them in the U.S. Your argument is not true.
What about the right of the child's body? The child's body is not the woman's. It's the child's. Reminds me of the analogy I posed to you already. The child is just a tenant in the mother's home. Is it right for a landlord to kill a tenant because they don't produce as a member of society? No. It's murder. So is killing the unborn baby for the same reason.
I never said that.....this is the "Anti-Choicers have No Argument So Make things Up Phase""" Abortion isn't murder and if it is do your civic duty and call the cops....why haven't you????
Depending on the condition hydrocephalus is reasonably easy to treat but many children this is not the only problem nor is it the easiest, and who pays because ultimately it would be you. you are the one footing the bill for medicaid. Prepared for your tax bill to rise?
Just stating facts. Nothing made up. It's called logically reasoning out the pro-choicer's killing thirsts.
Red Herring answer. Democrats are supposed to be the caring compassionate ones and want the taxes to go up. Right now, Democrat are just printing money growing on trees.