The coming civil war over abortion

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  1. ECA

    ECA Well-Known Member

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    Wrong. This whole discussion started because of the asinine statement by Belch
     
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    When used correctly, many forms of contraception are very reliable. Add to that the option to refrain from nookie during fertile days, and you're unlikely to conceive. VERY unlikely.
     
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    I don't know what he said, I was responding to you.
     
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    And you think Dems are against this? This is why they support education, Planned Parenthood and Obamacare.

    What did you use? Anything?

    You don't ever answer.
     
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    In their defense, that type of thinking requires some effort.
     
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    And how are they working out? Lowest teen/unwanted pregnancy and abortion rate in the world, I imagine .. yes?
     
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    What do you suggest?

    Snarky bitchism?

    What did you use or do? Anything?
     
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    It's not the Dems who keep bringing this issue up.

    EIGHT STATES wrote harsh new laws against abortion this year. Dems wrote NONE of those laws.

    And, Dems didn't write the bills assaulting women's abortion rights in Texas, Kansas and many other states over the last few years - bills so harsh that they got tossed by the SC in some cases.

    You are just plain wrong about who keeps bringing this up.

    In fact, when the Dems had a veto proof majority they focused on very different issues.

    And, your reference to the ACA is totally unrelated.
     
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    And planning.

    On that, I enjoy the dysfunctional naivety of those who only recognise infantile spasticity when it comes to freedoms and good times. It's funny, yet also sad. Means they have no metric or precedent for the greater freedoms of a well considered life. When your ducks are squarely in order .. you can go far wilder than otherwise. You're mentally much freer to abandon all care.
     
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    Your tolerance is hanging out.
     
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    You obviously did nothing but planning, yet you don't answer my question.

    Can't bare to lie or what?
     
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    As of now, I see people who don't answer simple questions doing nothing but criticizing others with nothing truly useful.

    Even education, Planned Parenthood, and Obamacare are sneered at as failures.

    So what is suggested? Sterilize all girls? Cut off boy's nuts?
     
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    So the only solutions you'd be happy with are abortions or gelding? Is personal responsibility THAT threatening?
     
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    Our entire discussion started when you responded to my reply to him.
     
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    If anything you just said was true, you might be right.

    She simply presented you with reality: they don't need "education" when they can just have sex and get a "free" abortion.

    Roughly HALF of PP "services" are STD screenings so clearly people aren't having random unprotected sex thanks to your "education" efforts. One in ten patients are there for abortions, and the remaining 4 out of 10 get pregnancy tests, grab some condoms they apparently don't use, and get cancer screenings.

    Of course, the abortion percentages are obfuscated by the fact that prior to the abortion, the same patient probably received a dozen other "services".
     
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    Meaning what?

    How come you don't answer my simple question?

    I guess that answers the question.

    "Do as I say and not as I did."
     
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    How about utilizing the prefrontal cortex? Is that hard?
     
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    So your answer is make abortion completely illegal and that will solve all the problems.

    Education doesn't work, Planned Parenthood doesn't work, nothing works.

    What will work is a strict strict law.

    Funny, when the topic is guns, one of the first answers is always that laws don't work.

    What method did you use?
     
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    Yeah we're not the ones running around getting STDs and having abortions.
     
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    Is that what you did? Abstinence? Implant?
     
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    So what did you do?

    Seems weird that superior people such as yourselves don't answer.
     
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    No.

    Making people personally responsible for their own actions solves all the problems.

    Laws don't stop murder or abortion. It's the holding people accountable for their actions part that stops most.

    You'll never stop all of it.

    That's why the only people who pick up a gun and murder someone are the people who don't care about the consequences.

    People who don't care about consequences can't be stopped by anything except a successful self-defense.
     
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    I'll tell you what I didn't do, I didn't run around drunk sticking myself into anything that moved.
     
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    Seeing as how I don't have any children I didn't intend to have, I'd say it worked out well.

    I'm available for consulting if you need some help with your life.
     
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    So you want women and girls who have had abortions to go to jail as murderers.

    That's your solution.
     

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