The coming indictment of Donald Trump will break his power: former Obama lawyer

Pence is a minority now??

 

Just what it says. A fascist is basically a nationalist on steroids and the race based sorts see nations as established by race. Nazis, to all intents and purposes

 

Your first statement tells me it's waste of our time for me to talk to you

 

Kind of like the US was when you were a child.

 

You mean back the last time Yellowstone was erupting and velociraptors were our truant officers? I don't remember that at all. Alzheimer's does that.

Seriously, elaborate.

 

In the 150's Jim Crow was still extant in the South, the US was 90% White. Immigration laws limited immigration by non-whites. School prayer was a thing. Patriotism wasn't sneered at.

 

Patriotism isn't sneered at now, not by me or most progressives, but it depends on what you call patriotism. You think the Nazis describe how most people felt in general back then? Then why were we on opposite sides at Normandy?

 

But you did anyway.

 

Not any more.

 

But sir, the proof you need is easily available.
I was nice enough to give you names to start your research. If you are actually interested.

 

I think Trump is fast becoming a has been if he weren’t already after Nov 2020. The problem is Trump himself, his avid followers and it seems Democrats haven’t recognized this yet. I equate a very favorable opinion of Trump within the Republican Party as being avid Trumpers. His current very favorable among Republicans is at 37%, that’s down from 65% in January. Those Republicans who consider themselves MAGA Republicans are now outnumbered by non-MAGA Republicans 47-36 and if that isn’t bad enough, for the 2024 Republican nomination DeSantis now leads Trump 48-40 among Republicans. Only 49% of Republicans want Trump to run again in 2024,



https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/by8wjw1hur/econTabReport.pdf


Those numbers indicate Trump is quickly becoming a has been and or becoming more and more irrelevant. Whether or not Trump is indicted, his days as leader, the face of the GOP is numbered. Republicans are getting tired of lowing with Trump in charge. They lost the House in 2018, the presidency and the senate in 2020, a red wave election was turned into a red trickle in 2022. One might even call this year’s midterms a blue trickle as the Democrats gained a senate seat, 2 governorships while limiting their house loses to 9 seats. All thanks to Trump.


As for indictments, the classified documents is the most probable. 1-6 committee charges, a big maybe. But Georgia remains out there and that is another real possibility of an indictment. Whether they come or not, Trump, his power over Republicans is fading quickly.

 

I advocate for trump still being relative, for 1 simple reason.
He set the R party back 20 years and they let him. Because they are all a bunch of cowards.

The dems are doing the R party a big favor by keeping his stupid lies active.
I say let the R party recognize how stupid following his lies are.
McCarthy hasn't publicly admitted it yet. He's the biggest coward of all the R's.

 

I have seen many posts about "Trump followers"...... I truly believe the ones who stand up for Trump is mostly about the way you have treated the man with the nonstop garbage the left throws on the walls to see what sticks..... it is an everyday thing now....

The funny part.... the left stays as far away from our current disastrous administration as possible ...... but Trump truly lives in the lefts head 25/8...

 

Wait, you've promoted for over 2 yrs, a stolen 2020 election.
And never offered a shred of proof.
And your leader of the cult, was voted out as an incumbent, he was so good. Impeached 2X.
Biden must live in your head 26/9. LOL.

 

Please provide us with the investigative reports into election fraud.... it will all be in there...we can read it and decide for ourselves...

 

He took our country back way more than 20 years.

He gutted civil and human rights.
https://civilrights.org/trump-rollbacks/

Used his power to conceal COVID statistics while lying to us (and getting $5.4M from China).
https://www.americanbridgepac.org/hhs-covid-reports/

Over 200 environmental policies.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/climate/trump-environment-rollbacks-list.html

Hate crimes increased as soon as he took over.
https://www.essence.com/news/day-one-donald-trump-america-hate-crimes/

Made it easier to fire experts over political leanings.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03063-0

Coward Garland slow-walked the cases so many co-conspirators were on mid-term ballots and re-elected. We would be talking about the missing bodies had Obama and BLM done what he and the other traitors attemped.

Affirmative Action is on the chopping block in SCOTUS. Pence is running around in his own KKK rallies claiming that racism doesn't exist in the United States.

Females have lost the right to have a voice in their private health decisions because it's easier to rape little girls to force them to become breeders than to honestly discuss the systemic bigotry that makes them afraid of becoming the ethnic minority.

He's just pure evil in every way. Not one redeemable quality.

 

Your claim, your proof. And not the usual, I heard someone say ...
but real proof. You must have it? Right? 2 yr and more you have to have something.

Here's a statement from trump appointed AG, the head of the USA law enforcement.

...
Attorney General William Barr said Tuesday that the Justice Department has not uncovered evidence of widespread voter fraud that could change the outcome of the 2020 presidential election, despite claims by President Trump and his campaign’s legal team.

Barr, during an interview with The Associated Press Tuesday, said that U.S. attorneys and FBI officials have been working to follow up on specific complaints and information they have received, but have not uncovered enough evidence that would change the outcome of the election.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/william-barr-doj-fbi-voter-fraud-2020-election
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Your turn.

 

no your claim your proof.... the evidence is behind lock and key...

Show right here right now either way you want...

The investigation and report into voter fraud that shows a) election fraud DID NOT happen or b) election fraud did happen....

Don't bother responding with lame excuses if you can't produce investigative results... to either a or b....

 

1st, prove there was voter fraud. You are asking for evidence of evidence that can't exist.
Investigating something that never happened is really really stupid.

Now you say evidence is behind lock and key. AG Barr, trump DoJ put evidence behind lock and key.
Please provide evidence of this new claim no one has ever heard before.

The claims are getting more and more bizarre. And no one, yourself included, has ever shown a single shred of evidence.

 

Nationalism is a GOOD thing. Can you cite any SPECIFIC racist connections? I don't see any. Except that labeling whites in America today much as Hitler used Jes to establish a common enemy is quite a valid comparison.

 

I can understand the loyalty to Trump by the Republicans while he was president. That’s normal, protecting your party’s president from the opposing party’s usually negative rhetoric and in Trump’s case two impeachments. Democrats now defend Biden to the max whenever a Republicans says something negative about him. I think the difference is Democrats will still defend Obama while Republicans have thrown G.W. Bush under the bus. But when Bush was president, the Republicans defended him to the max. But Bush said some bad things about Trump, hence he became the devil to them.


I never expected Republicans to desert Trump while he was president. No party loyalist does that for any president of their party. They’re always in the protective, defend mode. What was unusual about Trump is that he didn’t fade away after he lost in 2020. All other presidents after they lost or left the presidency did, gone into obscurity more or less, left the political scene. You hardly ever hear anything from Obama, G.W. Bush or Bill Clinton. Trump tried to retain his power. Which resulted in a very lousy midterm election for the Republicans.


I think the opposite of you, I view Trump as the biggest asset election wise the Democrats have going for them. Keeping Trump alive is a huge help to the Democrats. I view this more as an election strategist than a partisan of either party which I’m not. I believe that keeping Trump alive, well, the leader, head and face of the Republican Party will guarantee a Democratic victory in 2024. Many reasons for this, but the main reason is independents which make up 40% plus of the electorate disliked Trump immensely. 2022 also proved they disliked his chosen candidates, voted against them. The Democrats trying to put Trump in jail is doing the Republicans a big favor, election wise. Getting rid of him is one huge mistake if one is only looking at election strategy. But I think today, many Republicans are hoping Trump gets indicted. He's a loser as 2018, 2020 and 2022 proved. Letting the Democrats, whether the DOJ, the Atlanta DA or someone else associated with the Democratic Party let’s the Republican Party off the hook. They can always blame the Democrats for putting Trump away which is what many Republicans privately want without saying so. Watch, things are going to get interesting.

 

Another lib post screaming that Trump is a bad guy without ever saying why, calling him a liar without naming any lies, and talking about indicting him without any charges being filed. It gets old.
Libs can't seemj to actually convict him of anything... but they sure can deride and insult him. He must really scare them.

 

Like many other swing voters, it wasn’t Trump’s policies I was against. It was the man himself. His childish antics like name calling and throwing temper tantrums, his 3rd grade schoolyard bullying tactics. His overall very unpresidential behavior which I and a good majority of other swing voters’ thought was way below the dignity the office of the presidency deserved. By a good majority, I mean swing voters voted for Biden 54-41 over Trump in 2020. They too thought Trump’s behavior as president was beyond the pale.


Had Trump had a decent personality like a Reagan, Bill Clinton or even an Obama he’d probably have been reelected and reelected fairly easily. But he didn’t and still doesn’t. Trump is like that obnoxious, uncouth, rude uncle that nobody likes because his behavior is so distasteful. I realize Republicans love him because he is a fighter who takes no lip. Trump just carried that way too far. Why vote for Biden, simply because he wasn’t Trump. Biden behaved like an adult, a grownup and not like some 4-year-old spoiled brat. I realize this is impossible for avid Trump supporters to understand. But remember, swing voters or as some call them, independents aren’t political junkies. They don’t pay much if any attention to the daily grind of politics going on in Washington D.C. They’re too busy living their own life, trying to make ends meet, taking care of family, watching their favorite TV programs, rooting for their favorite sports team.


60% of swing voters had an unfavorable view of Trump in 2020. History has shown folks usually don’t vote for a candidate they dislike, and they disliked Trump as a person, the individual, the way he acted and behaved. Not necessarily his policies. Swing voters expected Trump to act and behave like a president should, not as his rude, obnoxious reality TV show host he once was. When it came to swing voters, Trump defeated Trump, not Biden nor the democrats. Biden was acceptable in both his behavior and his more presidential persona along with acting like a grownup instead of a spoiled 4-year-old brat.


Hard to fathom isn’t it. Trump lost because of his personality, not his policies nor his stances on the issues. After all, to most swing voters’ elections are a personality contest, a beauty contest, a popularity contest. The candidate for whatever reason they like the most, gets their vote. Rather simple really.

 

I agree with a lot of what you say. But I find it irrelevant. All I want from any President is allow my family and I to be safe, free and prosperous. That's all.
If he does that, he can have relations with aardvarks and I couldn't care less.
Trump cut my taxes... he kept the world safe from new wars.. he kept law and order... he had reasonable inflation and gas prices..

What the hell do i care about him being rude or obnoxious on TV? That has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with keeping my family SAFE and PROSPEROUS.

Yes... Trump had a big mouth... but that made NO DIFFERENCE to what he did to keep my family safe and prosperous... WHICH IS ALL THAT COUNTS.

 

And 'alf a Crown if you're quick about it