The coming indictment of Donald Trump will break his power: former Obama lawyer

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  1. flyboy56

    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
     
  2. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    I assume with a lot more credibility that of someone's opinion of a fringe website. Written by an anonymous guest writer.

    Written by Guest Writer
    JANUARY 14, 2022 AT 4:01 PM
     
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    You can assume all you wish, but you would still be demonstrating you don't understand how words are defined and find their way into dictionaries.
     
  4. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    I prefer to support America and it's democratic process at the moment.
    I don't like the 2 party system, I don't think it serves the people well. But at the moment, the USA is under threat from MAGA.
     
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    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    I understand it better than you. Using a fringe website and a guest writer to make your point.
     
  6. Overitall

    Overitall Well-Known Member Donor

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    *sigh* Just stop.

    Are the definitions you offered prescriptive or descriptive?
     
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  7. flyboy56

    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is no Democratic process in the People's House. Committees are selected by the majority party leader who decide on the bills to draft and then the rest of the Representatives vote on them. That is not how the Founding Fathers intended the House of Representatives to function. Every Representative should be able to write their own bill pertinent to their constituents and present it for the House to vote on.
     
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    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How many parties would you prefer? The MAGA's took over the Republican Party because they believe the GOP has failed them. That's exactly how democracy is suppose to work. I'm guessing the Woke Progressive crowd will eventually vote out the Liberals and make the Democrat party theirs as well.
     
  9. dairyair

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    Ask Merriam webster.

    Or go ask the guest writer on your fringe website.

    Sigh**** Just stop. LOL.
     
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    A martyred Donald Trump will be a nightmare for our corrupt bipartisan ruling political class.
    Our rulers are about to fail yet another IQ test -- SNAFU. ;-)
     
  11. dairyair

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    And MAGA is currently being dismantled and put back under their rocks.
    Have you not noticed the lack of winning in the last 3 elections? 2018, 20, 22.

    How democracy is supposed to work.
    The people are rejecting MAGA anti American nonsense.
     
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    I didn't think you would know. Thanks for confirming your ignorance on the subject. Enjoy the rest of your day.
     
  13. dairyair

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    LOL, Mr I support the definition of words based on a fringe website using a guest writer for making a case for a definition.

    Speaking of confirming one's own ignorance.
    I will stick with reputable sources for definitions of words. You can use anonymous sources for yours.
     
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    Impeachments are different than indictments. For instance, do you really think the house impeaching the Secretary of Homeland Security, as Rep McCarthy has promised is going to pass in the senate with 60 votes?

    Mueller report suggested otherwise. He spent 60 pages of obstruction of justice by Trump. He also confirmed some of the things the Steele report did, but not all.

    January 6th has some 800 plus defendants charged, with 412 who pled guilty of which 100 with felonies, and lately the convictions by trial by jury of the leaders of the oath keepers.

    Think again.
     
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    Trump has been doing this long before our politics became dysfunctional. In the past, no one listened to him, absolutely no one. And that was the case when he try to run in 1992 when the Reform Party began. Even then he called John McCain a coward, among other things and nearly all who served in Vietnam in that party ignored him.

    It is more a product of social media and how news is influenced with extreme biased reporting with certain groups of people only wanting to listen to things that fit in their myopic world. And that is why we have a dysfunctional political system.
     
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    And that is why you are seeing a vast majority of MEGA candidates losing in competitive races. Both parties have their extremes, but the MEGA crowd are not concerned with the Constitution, not concerned with law and order unless it is only to "them," and pretty much b***** complain about pretty much everything.
     
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    What you are ignoring is how close solid blue states came to losing. Biden used taxpayers money to win votes. That is desperation.
     
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    The Republican congress starting in January will find out why the request for the National Guard to secure the Capital was denied on the 5th of January. We have learned it was the DOJ who was selected as the Federal agency in charge of securing the Capital on January 6. Several days before the protest was scheduled Trump requested the National Guard provide security.
     
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    Interesting.... please show us the evidence in the Mueller report that ""confirmed some of the things the Steele report did""..
     
  20. dairyair

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    What taxpayer money?
     
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    Everyone for himself doesn't work, something we saw in the 1930s when our charity approach to welfare wasn't enough to keep people from starving. We also have a problem of workers not getting raise for 40+ years...

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    He was going after innocent kids for raping Tawana Brawley 30+ years ago.
    The media, from Fox to MSNBC, are stirring up stuff to help their bottom line.
     
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    Impeachments establish that there is enough data to justify proceeding with a court trial in the Senate. Indictments establish that there is enough data to justify proceeding with a court trial. That's their common purpose. The trial is a separate effort and issue in both cases. No conviction in the Senate happened with either Trump impeachment. So both impeachments were NOTHINGBURGERS.

    No Trump conviction resulted from the Mueller Report. So it was a NOTHINGBURGER too.

    Jan 6th resulted in no Trump conviction so it was a NOTHINGBURGER too.
     
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    All charts aside, I agree that "everyone for himself" doesn't work. That isn't my position. My position is that social spending doesn't belong in federal government. If you want to keep it, move it to the states where it is closer to the public and subject to inter state competition.
     
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    Jan 6 investigation is still ongoing...to say "Nothingburger" is premature.
    For both Impeachments it was FAR from a "Nothingburger"....just because Trump had sycophants in the Senate to protect him doesn't take away from the corruption that led to the impeachments.
     

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