The continuation of lies from the left media. It’s shameful

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  1. Joe knows

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    This is utter sickening. MSNBC continues to smear Kyle Rittenhouse as a vigilante that crossed state line with a gun. All a lie. Some articles even claiming that he killed people that were in fear for their lives LMAO. Oh and it’s all about race.

    https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/kyle-rittenhouse-s-not-guilty-verdict-symptom-bigger-sickness-n1284130

    yup, illegally obtaining a gun even though that charge was literally so baseless it got thrown out of court. Then it was white supremacy that led to his acquittal. And he killed people who felt threatened by him. Lmao what a joke.

    if they felt threatened by him they didn’t display it near as much as Kyle did. He was literally running away from those who supposedly felt threatened. The ones who felt threatened were running after him. What a backward statement.

    And another article

    https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/kyle-rittenhouse-acquitted-homicide-rcna5748

    again lying and describing him as someone who crossed state lines with a gun. This article even labels the people who chased and tried to kill Kyle as protesters. Is that what protesters do? Chase people and try to violently hurt or kill people? Just another lie by MSNBC. They also can’t get over the fact he was white. Why is this? It didn’t even play a roll in anything.

    And another article

    https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/ritte...formance-was-controversial-it-wasn-t-n1284282

    Again… Claiming armed with an assault style rifle he traveled across the border. They are literally feeding this proven lie like they actually may believe it but we all know they don’t. They’re trying to change the facts so this story will fit their narrative.

    The facts don’t conclude the same message they’re trying to conclude so they have to lie. I hope Kyle sues their pants off. These are the same people who cry about misinformation yet do this? I don’t trust them at all.
     
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    so how did he get the gun legally?
     
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    This is to be expected from a far left media. There are very few objective reporters/journalists/editors anymore. They keep getting caught reporting lies to fit their narrative and doctoring videos to fit their reporting. Why would an intelligent grown-up do these things? These are the things you might expect from a five-year-old. This is damaging our country.
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There's no question these things are true, and the distortion has great negative impact on our ability to accurately understand events- meaning many wind up making an argument for things that were never true, and creating public support for things that were never true. Result- chaos, division... based on disinformation. Nothing good ever comes of that kind of deception; it is fundamentally wrong and harmful.
    So- WHAT could we do about this?

    At one point, all broadcasting was done via federally owned radio frequencies. To be a broadcaster, you had to have a license, and to get and keep a license, you had to follow rules. That license gave the federal government the ability to set rules about content and practice that broadcaster had to stay within or lose it. When cable, satellite and internet came along that was bi-passed and it's power faded. Unfortunately so has journalistic ethics and integrity, which today- seem distant memories that many young people can't relate to. Watching cable news on some stations and buying it as reality is not much different than watching porn and thinking it's fit for your children. No rules; no consequences- always has consequences, and never good ones.

    Let's say we were able to restore congress to it's proper, designed function in government. That would make it the tool, the voice of the people again, with great power- Congress is the rule maker and the administrator that has control all other agencies of government in a multitude of ways. How could they control the massive dis-information of today?

    Let me suggest one way that congress could use to get journalism back to it's ethics and standards. Like most things; rules only work if they are enforced. If they are not, the result is that bad conduct has tacit approval, and the worst in people comes to the front- and society suffers. So were talking about enforcing rules or standards. That means you have to have some good standards, and a way to make the choice to follow them the only rational option. And- you must do that within the structure of law, in this case mostly the first amendment, but there are others that matters and should apply. .

    Let's say that we recognize that while first amendment free speech is only restricted by libel and slander, the act of public publishing, meaning the systematic distribution of information as news made that process subject to a part of law known as "Fiduciary Duty". I think it already should be, but that's not been formally applied to my knowledge.

    Fiduciary Duty apples automatically to many positions and exchanges, it does not for example need to be called out in a contract, it's there and applies regardless. The right to publish, while no longer licensed in the way it once was- is still a kind of public trust, and that carries an obligation to be honest and responsible in the practice of it. That is the essence of Fiduciary Duty.

    Were congress to recognize that the act of publishing automatically establishes inherent Fiduciary Duty.... False and misleading stories, particularly intentional ones, become violations of that law- and actionable, meaning.... consequences.

    The concept doesn't dictate content, doesn't violate free speech... DOES address telling a half-truth via a published medium to create an intentional lie and deception in the minds of listeners/readers.
    Of course, only an honorable congress could do this- so the first thing to restore that, then through that, restore ethics to journalism. First things first.

    Long (long) ago, Grandpa used to say- "There's more than one way to skin a cat"..... and he was right. We need to know them all.
     
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    The charge was thrown out in court because it was considered a long gun and long guns are legal for people 16 and up to bear in this state. It was so apparent that he was within his right to do so that it was not even given to the jury to decide. It was thrown out.
     
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    True, the judge did the lawfully correct thing. But the media and the moron government prosecutors had already swayed some of the brainless public. Just read some of the postings by ignorant people on the PF.
     
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    If you actually watched the case, the judge explained that. Go do your own homework before attempting to contribute to a conversation based on ignorance. You wouldn’t need to ask this question.
     
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    You misspelled carry.
     
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    Maybe your problem is you don't know the difference between news and opinion/blog pages.

    Regardless, once the these leftists news outlets start saying rittenhouse was not even from his home state, his mom is a FOX news executive, he is a communist who ripped up the constitution and was a paid crisis actor; then I will be outraged too.
     
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    No matter whether you believe Kyle was justified in killing two human beings or not, this.........Kyle Rittenhouse as a vigilante that crossed state line with a gun............is absolutely true.
     
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    Rittenhouse did NOT drive the gun across state lines.

    You have spent weeks on this site discussing this case. How do you not know this by now?

    "But during his trial, Rittenhouse testified in court that he drove himself from his home in Illinois to Kenosha on August 24, 2020, the day before he fatally shot two men. The gun was already being stored at a friend's house in Kenosha, according to police records and court testimony. "

    https://www.insider.com/6-myths-surrounding-the-kyle-rittenhouse-trial-debunked-2021-11
     
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    Quick Lee... apply a strawman fallacy to defend MSNBC!
     
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    He didn't cross state lines with a gun. The gun was in Wisconsin, and he was given the gun when he arrived.

    Stop watching your partisan propaganda media and you would know this.
     
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    LoL. I live in Wisconsin and shot my first buck with a shotgun at the age 15. How did I do it legally? A real mystery of the universe. I could provide the answer to you with multiple links to prove my point but we both know that you would reject that answer. I will save myself the effort and leave the question to perplex and vex you.
     
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    Lmao and here is proof that people will believe the left wing lies. He never crossed state lines with a gun. That’s literally a lie. It was proven in court by witness testimony on how he got the gun. The gun he was carrying was actually kept by a Wisconsin resident that is a friend of kyles and was actually in his friends name. He never traveled state lines with a gun. You’re just buying the lie because it sounds more ominous
     
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    That’s all MSNBC is… Opinion that people take as news
     
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    No definition of vigilante applies here. Just stop. Repeating it over and over makes you seem crazier and crazier. It’s just comical at this point.
     
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    If a riot, burning, looting starts in my town I would welcome Kyle to come here. And he could bring "you know what".
     
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    The problem we face is once we start regulating the press we are regulating free speech, and in very short order we have the Big Foot of government using it’s power to “issue corrective action”.
    As bad as it is, censorship is worse.
    The problem is not the press but the people who blindly believe what they say.
    Ask yourself “Why is MSNBC still in business?”
    Answer: “Advertisers believe MSNBC has a positive effect on sales of items they advertise.”
     
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    But advertising rates are based on number of viewers. As the lying media gets caught lying and giving off their radical liberal opinions the viewers are moving to other broadcasts. Then MSNBC has to lower their advertising rates due to loss of viewers which effects their revenue. It's the free enterprise system at work. Let the lying media dig their own graves.
     
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    That makes you part of the problem.
     
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    Your inability to learn anything from the evidence that came out in court from the prosecution is really unmatched by anyone on PF.
     
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    "Buying" and PEDDLING are two different things...;)
     
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    I would prefer police and national guard, and I want charges to stick and stick hard.,
     
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    I think he doesn’t want to admit the facts because like MSNBC it doesn’t fit either of their fictional stories
     

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