My attitude is: looking at several academic disciplines. History. Biology. Climatology. Science is mostly about serving the financing people. Such as Environmental Impact Reports. Drug studies. I have been there. Witnessed it.Science does not deserve your faith nor worship. It deserves your critical thinking as real science advocates AND remember Just because I'm a conspiracist doesn't mean it isn't! Yes it is warming but not beyond or greater than historical warm ups. Moi BTW I just discovered the Bølling–Allerød warming https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bølling–Allerød_warming while I was refreshing my memory of the Younger-Dryas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Dryas Enjoy the links and ponder.
@Tigger2 "Evidence the cool down is coming" It always does! Do you think there was ever a life time when someone didn't reflect on such changes compared to their youth? Climate changes just like the weather
@Tigger2 Ice cores. Atmosphere is a mixture of gases. Some some large molecules / elements. Some small. Some with polarity like H2O is polar. Some not. What of differential diffusion of gases into ice over millennia? Or even centuries. Ice core samples seem to presume trapped atmosphere is "static". Y'think? Now you find and ID some trapped pollen in an ice core . . . Moi @Tigger2 Hoping you check out the links above.
So you are holding to the idea that all the climate change scientists colluded together across the globe for money and there's not an honest one among them all, just so you can claim its all made up. You have no explanation for why its getting warmer now or the increased Co2 in the atmosphere, your entire argument is that they all lied. Oh and that it once before got warmer. And your argument that we can expect a cooling is. It always does. That it? I think I'll leave you to it my dear.
I am NOT your "dear". And paraphrasing or "your saying" is unethical form. BTW did you check the links. The origins of those episodes are ponder worthy How about differential gas diffusion in ice? Not worthy? Lots of chemistry required for a Biology bachelors. 1 year general 1 year organic half year quantitative analysis
Having advocated checking out geothermal activity at the subarctic junction of the North American Plate and the Eurasian Plate I am pleased to share, courtesy of @Jack Hays https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/12...lume-drives-thermal-activities-in-the-arctic/ Newly discovered Greenland (mantle) plume drives thermal activities in the Arctic A team of researchers understands more about the melting of the Greenland ice sheet. They discovered a flow of hot rocks, known as a mantle plume, rising from the core-mantle boundary beneath central Greenland that melts the ice from below. The North Atlantic region is awash with geothermal activity. Iceland and Jan Mayen contain active volcanoes with their own distinct mantle plumes, whilst Svalbard – a Norwegian archipelago in the Arctic Ocean – is a geothermal area. However, the origin of these activities and their interconnectedness has largely been unexplored. The research team discovered that the Greenland plume rose from the core-mantle boundary to the mantle transition zone beneath Greenland. The plume also has two branches in the lower mantle that feed into other plumes in the region, supplying heat to active regions in Iceland and Jan Mayen and the geothermal area in Svalbard. Now all they have to do to secure future grants is implicate human activity. I refuse to feel so insignificant not to believe this is another man made event. Per "The Day After Tomorrow" all that fresh water draining into the Atlantic Ocean is going to shut down the oceanic thermal conveyor resulting in . . . nope not more warming but the coming cool down. Maybe a sort of Ice Age. Moi & HARRP
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/10/151009083254.htm Now scientists have found that, for a period of 20 years, the earth will cool instead of warm if global warming and a collapse of the AMOC occur simultaneously. AMOC - - Atlantic meridional overturning circulation
Scientists have not found anything of the sort. Its a theory paper. Nonetheless the cause is still man made climate change. The reason they call it climate change instead of global warming is because it changes the climate. The highest wind speeds, the hottest temperatures, the longest dry spells, the highest rainfall ever recorded have all happened in last 5 years and each year we break another record. Scientists (Paid) and data collectors (paid) across the world are reporting increased levels of Co2 in the atmosphere. And unlike 12,000 years ago, today we have the ability to look around the world and the solar system to see what is causing this. There is no methane gas released from frozen lakes (Yet) No reversal of ocean currents (Yet). No sunspot activity, No super volcanos or major tectonic shifts. We know what is causing our climate change, its us. The idea that if the Atlantic meridional collapses that the northern hemisphere will just be a bit cooler and we can all relax is laughable. Man made climate change deniers never offer an explanation as to why we are seeing increased Co2, they point to unexplained events in ancient history as if this shows we cannot know what's causing this warming, ignoring the fact that NOW in the present we are quite capable of seeing what's happening and not happening. And to get past all the masses of evidence being presented they claim every scientist, researcher, data collector in the world is involved in a mass conspiracy of epic proportions and all in order to get a wage. Thank god governments don't listen to these people.
The Cool Down is coming. Another side effect of the COVID pandemic. The "but, but, but CO2 levels" crowd will this https://news.yahoo.com/world-carbon-dioxide-emissions-drop-000444935.html A locked-down pandemic-struck world cut its carbon dioxide emissions this year by 7%, the biggest drop ever, new preliminary figures show. . . Remember a tipping point is there when too much of the sun's energy is reflected by snow & ice. Moi hoards the secrets of ice!
Someone said to me the other day that Covid was the worlds immune system fighting the human virus it had contracted. Its not true, but is amusing. Yes stopping economic activity has reduced Co2 production temporarily, but not the Co2 we have already pumped into the atmosphere. The cooling tipping point you dream of is not coming. Ice sheets, glaciers and snow fields are all shrinking. The sun is on low heat at the moment and isn't going to cool down more. There are no short term natural phenomena driving earths temperature rise, just us. For myself I am less concerned about the tipping point, us humans are very resourceful and we would adapt. The question I think, is an economical one. Which will cost more, reducing Co2 emissions or dealing with the weather we get from not reducing Co2 emissions.
If you need a definitive opinion of your nonsense, then attempt to publish it. Maybe getting laughed off the planet by the global scientific commmunity is what you need in order to get it.
Please check out http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/can-they-be-trusted.513616/ Whoopie Diving For Dollars Science With laughing Parrots Reminds me of Low Cholesterol Diet "science" times. There are pieces of the puzzle you and other parrots refuse to consider. They have been offered earlier on this thread and ignored or written off.
Please understand that your dimestore science lectures have zero significance. If you make claims that run contrary to accepted scientific knowledge, then attempt to publish them.
Its all just the same old claims that something happened thousands of years ago that we cannot fully explain, coupled with the idea that every scientist in the world is for sale. Its just so ridiculous.
@Vailhundt @Tigger2 References have been linked through out this thread. The two of you haven't contributed to a discussion with even one reference between you. Go figure. Feel FREE not to reply to this thread. Moi Winter is coming
Again what references do you want? You cannot be unaware of the size of information available. References to what? A link between Co2 and atmospheric heating, Evidence the Co2 contributes to global warming, proof of higher recorded rainfall, wind speed, temperature, evidence that that Co2 comes from man. What precisely are you questioning. Oh, and you posting a chart of something that happened 12,000 years ago is not a reference to current climate change.
You cannot argue with people who claim all the worlds science institutions and scientists are bought. The idea is so conspiracy as to be beyond comprehension.
Statin drugs change the way you die. Their use provokes strokes. Cerebral Vascular events. Cholesterol is like the scaffolding of the brain. What happens when too much is removed? We thank the Lord the death wasn't cardiac. Please Google " statin strokes"
