The Deep History Of US, Britain's Never-Ending Cold War On Russia

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-04/deep-history-us-britains-never-ending-cold-war-russia

I expect the howls from the illiterate people in the style - "this is all a lie," "UN lie," "we are an exceptional nation"...

Seriously speaking, the ties between Anglo-American oligarchs and politicians With fascists of Germany are a well-known fact.
All dictatorial, fascist regimes, as well as terrorist groupings were created by the governments of Britain and the United States. All. Al Qaeda, the Taliban, ISIS and others were created directly by the CIA. Even the Colombian drug cartels are controlled by the CIA.
Millions of lives of civilians killed by fascists and other scoundrels are on the conscience of the American elites.

But nothing changes. In the 20s - 30s, the United States and Britain created Hitler, now the United States and NATO have created ISIS.

By the way, Debunked another western myth. The Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons submitted a report according to which syrupy In the Syrian city of Marat Umm-Hosh in the province of Aleppo, sulfur mustard was used.. Russia insists on further studying the materials and identifying the perpetrators.
The report of the lying scoundrels from Human Rights Watch, which contained the statement that the chemical bomb used in the city of Khan-Sheikhon was used as a Soviet bomb, is not true. In other words, the lying scoundrels from Human Rights Watch deliberately lied.

What do you think about it?

 

Revisionist history never works.
An opinion piece is just that - an opinion.
We sent countless tons of supplies to the USSR, and might well have saved them from collapse.
Distrust of the USSR was understandable, since the USSR started WWII on the Axis side and attacked Poland in conjunction with the Nazis.
Stalin then committed the Katyn Massacre of Poles.

 

You do not know the story. World War II began with Germany, Poland and Hungary. They attacked Czechoslovakia. With the full approval of Western countries. Which they received at the Munich conspiracy.

In addition, the Russians did not kill the Poles in Katyn. Therefore, the international court rejected the claim of the Poles on the Katyn case to Russia.

The United States sent many tons of cargo to the USSR. It's true. But the USSR paid many times the inflated amount for these goods. When you buy bread from the store, you do not consider it that the seller has helped you. Is not it?. Especially considering the fact that he sells you this bread at a price that is repeatedly inflated, because you are hungry.

Also published materials - this is not a revision of history. These are archival documents. Enable the logic.
Recognize that the US government was in collusion with the Nazis. And they financed Hitler. That's why war criminals find refuge in the United States. And not only the Nazis.

 

It is a fact that Stalin had Poles massacred in the Katyn forest.
If you are going to continue with falsehoods, argue with yourself.

 

Can you prove it? Or Western media told you so? ... Just like, for example, about the chemical weapons of Saddam Hussein.



Again. The International Court denied the Poles a lawsuit in the Katyn case. But you certainly know more than the international court. Is not it?

 

Britain is not a neighboring state to Russia so there must be other reasons for the friction between the two empires... which more than likely had to do with Britain's fear of being superseded on the world stage. The USSR was merely an excuse for an animosity that pre-existed... which is strange since the Tsars family was closely linked.

Tsar Nicholas II spoke English like a native. Alexandra and her sister Saint Elizabeth who was married to the Tzars uncle were granddaughters of Queen Victoria, and King Edward's wife was Nicholas' aunt. I mean how much closer can you get than that?

I personally think the animosity and Russophobia in Britain, and the pressure on the Tzar to make reforms which helped cause his downfall, had to do with lobbyists from Poland, Germany and bankers.

 

Moreover, when, after the revolution, a proposal was made to the British monarchs to host Nicholas II, the Russian tsar, the British king refused.

 

Did they refuse it because Stalin was not to blame or because the Russian Federation is not responsible for the actions of the Soviet Union?

 

So the Americans and British are criticized for not taking on the Nazis east of Germany? Maybe that's because we were busy fighting the Nazis on the western front.

Did the Russians give us any assistance on the western side of Germany? If not, why not?

Complaining about the U.S. is like moaning about the color of Superman's cape. C'mon, really?

 

There are posters worth responding to in the hopes of a rational thread/discussion, this isn't one of them.

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...hilarious-manly-photo-ops-were-staged/323654/

"Bad news comrades: Russian strongman Vladimir Putin is not who you think he is. All those photos of him capturing endangered snow leopards, scuba diving in the Black Sea and hunting Siberian wildlife? Staged. Choreographed. Totally pre-cooked!

Shocking, right?

In an interview with Kremlin critic Masha Gessen, the Russian president confessed that his wildlife photo ops were staged...."

 

He didn't refuse it on his own volition, it was because the labor leader in Britain was adamantly against it. King George V was a first cousin to Nicholas and even looked like him. No one expected that the Tzar and his family would be murdered.

Later on when King George sent a warship to Crimea to save Nicholas' mother who was his aunt, she refused to board unless all her thousands of staff were saved as well. This forced the King to send more ships.

 

Butchering the royal family was a disgusting, barbaric crime. The Russians do stuff like that and then wonder why the rest of the world is wary of them.

 

On June 18, 2012, the European Court took a sensational decision that "documents", indicating that the execution of Polish officers under Katyn was committed by Stalin and the Soviet side, turned out to be a forgery.
The fact is that European judges are used to believe not so much loud public accusations, as to documents. And the popular thesis that "Stalin, the executioner who authorized the mass executions", demanded documentary confirmation. And there was no confirmation: the evidence presented by the Polish side did not bear direct evidence that the Russians were shooting the Poles.
Falsified documents were also identified.
And archival documents concerning the Katyn massacre require an immediate audit for possible falsification.
The small chamber of the ECHR, composed of seven judges in the operative part of the decree in the case "of Yanovets and Others v. Russia", with respect to twelve applicants relatives - of Polish officers shot by the officers - decided that representatives of USSR the right to life was not violated. The main conclusion is that Russia (as the successor of the USSR) is not responsible for the mass executions in Katyn.

 

One example. On December 16, 1944, the last-dying Nazi Germany, which suffered a series of crushing defeats in just six months, including the grandiose rout of Army Group Center in Belorussia, suddenly inflicts a severe blow to the Western Front, which takes the Allies by surprise. The German offensive in the Ardennes, known as Operation "Guard on the Rhine", developed rapidly, and placed the US-British forces in a critical position. The situation was so serious that it forced Churchill and Roosevelt to ask Stalin to accelerate the beginning of the Soviet offensive. Stalin listened to Churchill's pleas, and transferred the date of the beginning of the Vistula-Oder operation from January 30 to the 12th. The strike of Soviet troops in the East forced Germany to stop the offensive, and saved the Americans from the rout.

 

Maybe you'd better talk about the genocide of the North American Indians? But do not discuss the Russians.

 

At the same time, the British invaded Russia and built concentration camps. For example in Arkhangelsk. Where they killed and tortured the Russians. Long before the third Reich.

 

When two cultures meet that are 1,000 years apart, the more developed culture will supplant the other. It's inevitable.

 

Vladimir Putin was not a politician, so when he was forced to run to preserve the Russian Federation, he decided to get an expert from the US. He told him to present himself to the people as an outdoor man, so he did... thus the topless act.

 

You're wrong in that. You're thinking in terms of colonizing. In Europe it was always the barbarian's from the north that conquered the more advanced and civilized south. It was the less advanced Dorians from the north of Greece that conquered and established themselves as the nobility in Sparta, and the Romans did the same in Italy, even though the Greeks in Southern Italy and the Etruscans were more advanced.

Later the Germanic Franks did the same thing in Gaul... This is why the royal families are all Germans. In the end though they adapted to the more dominant cultures they conquered.

Frankly I always wondered if Germany had won WWI, which would have been the natural order of things, if the world today would have been different?

 

The English were very racist ...it wasn't only a German thing. Were they killing all Russians or only those in the Red army?

 

First of all the criminal Bolsheviks which were supported by American and British banksters, brought assassins from Finland to kill them since they were fearful that no Russian would be willing to commit regicide. The royal family was shipped and held at Ekaterinaburg where the Bolsheviks had a stronger hold.

 

Ah. So the U.S. is responsible for the murders of the Romanov family. And it wasn't Lenin and the communists. Interesting.

 

Just my opinion ... had Germany won either of the World Wars, or if Japan had defeated the U.S. in WW II, or if the Soviets had won the Cold War, the world would be worse off today than it is.

 

I didn't say the Americans, I was referring to an element in the banking community.