The difference between David Duke & MLK?

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  1. Libhater

    Libhater Well-Known Member

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    Other than skin color of course, what's the difference between Martin Luther King who sought civil rights for blacks by creating a mob mentality and city rioting of his black race in which to get them verse David Duke who sought to preserve the traditions of his WHITE race, i.e. the institutions established by his WHITE FOUNDERS--albeit through a more peaceful means to obtain that RIGHT? So the only difference between the two as I see it other than skin color was that the progress made by MLK's civil rights initiatives came about as a result of black riots and extensive crime in the streets, whereas Duke's platform initiative of preserving the WHITE traditions of our FOUNDERS still isn't being taken seriously, and still hasn't garnered the respect it deserves, and in an ironic sort of way is being trampled upon by the multiculturalists, by the political correctness movement, by the progressive movement, and by any and all leftist movements we currently have here in America. :wall:
     
  2. Think for myself

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    I think what most obviously what comes to mind is one man with deep religious and moral convictions used passive resistance to effect a positive change in this country, working tirelessly towards equal rights for all, and the other one is a racist, white supremacist (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) from Louisiana.
     
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    Martin Luther King was a good man who promoted peace and denounced violence. Perhaps you confused him with Malcom X who promoted violence at times.

    David Duke is a stupid racist piece of garbage. It embarrasses me to be of the same species as him.
     
  4. Libhater

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    While MLK did promote peace, the actions of his race produced just the opposite, regardless of whether he denouced violence or not. His speeches created a firestorm of racial hatred and racial belligerence by his race all throughout the sixties. I know for I saw it first hand as I was a teen during those race riots of the sixties, and furthermore, I witnessed it during my military stint as well when blacks went on this power trip to do everyhting possible to denounce or slam WHITES.

    This is where your immaturity exposes itself. In response to both you and to think for hisself, Duke is neither a racist or a supremacist. Other than Duke's beloved mother....his black nanny was the most beloved person in his life, and when his nanny died...Duke and his WHITE mother were the only two people who attended her funeral. So take that racist comment and stick it. Duke has never shown any sign(s) that he is a supremacist. Duke is a WHITE pride Nationalist who only wants to preserve our WHITE traditions, and he left the Klan because they were getting too violent for his taste.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    How the lies of racist propaganda are spread.

    Martin Luther King never advocated violence and advocated equality for all people regardless of invidious criteria such as race or religion.

    David Duke, a former head of the KKK that has a long history of racial violence including acts of terrorism and murder, advocates racist White Nationalism that violates the Inalienable Rights of the Person that isn't white.

    Martin Luther King was not a racist but David Duke is a racist.
     
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    What could be more stupid than having pride in your skin colour-an accident of birth? David Duke thus demonstrates his woeful lack of grey matter. And what on earth are these 'white traditions' he wants to preserve?
    Duke is also an ignorant POS anti-Semitic Jew-hater.
     
  7. Libhater

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    Where did you get the notion that Duke takes pride in his skin color, or that skin color is in any way a subject for debate? Duke has a doctorate degree, so that kind of dispells your loony notion that he lacks grey matter. A few of those WHITE traditions he wants to preserve (which are btw constantly under attack) are all Christmas traditions, our living Constitution, and almost every policy or event from our FOUNDERS that doesn't have the seal of approval from the multiculturalists among us. Leftist jessie jackson continues his mantra..."Ho..Ho..Ho..Western Civilization has got to go." which is a slap in the face of our WHITE historical beginnings. And like myself, Duke is not an anti-Semitic jew hater., but he sure does find the time to offer his opinion on the destructive behavior and actions of all of those jewish supremacists out there. Constructive criticism does not make one a racist or a supremacist for that matter. I should know, for no one would ever attempt to label me a racist or a supremacist simply because of my fun-loving good-nature countenance, and or because I'll often make critical assessments of something or someone, which could then be considered fodder for debate only.
     
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    MLK not a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)bag publicly and not nearly as annoying.

    (honestly stunned by the title. my initals are MLK, and my half brother Dave's last name is Duke) :laughing:
     
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    .... the historical White oppression of African-Americans, Jews and other minorities in America as that has always been the goal of the Ku Klux Klan.

    David Duke is a former Grand Wizard of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan and has always been a racist. The KKK is the foremost historical hate group in the United States that has engaged in violent acts against African-Americans, Jews, and other minorities for over a century and David Duke was a prominate leader of that same hate group.

    While the KKK has been forced to go "underground" with their hatred because they can no longer count on 12 KKK members being appointed to a jury to acquit them for their violent crimes against minorities, predominately African-Americans, but that hatred is undiminished and David Duke is a "poster child" of that hatred. Don't give us this crap that David Duke magically stopped being a racist. No one buys that BS regardless of what David Duke might say. Once a racist always a racist and David Duke is a leader of racism and hatred in America today.

    David Duke would like to return to the days when black couldn't vote and when they were slaves living under the whip by their white slave masters. That's the "White Tradition" that David Duke covertly seeks. His worst fear is that all Americans will someday be equal under the US Constitution because that would remove the invidious division between Whites and Blacks that he wants.

    David Duke preaches "division" of the American People based upon race as opposed to "unification" of the American People.

    Martin Luther King advocated a "colorless" society in America were all People were Equal and where a person was judged by the content of their character and not the color of there skin.

    David Duke advocates just the opposite believing that "Whites are superior to Blacks" based upon the history of White racism in America. He likes to cite the traditions of racism and racial oppression as if it is what America should be all about.

    We're not going back to the days of slavery and hopefully someday every bigoted White Racist like David Duke will die and we'll live in a society not divided by bigoted prejudice, hatred, and oppression. That was the dream Martin Luther King hoped would someday come to pass.

    Let us just remember one final fact and that is the FBI always believed that the KKK paid James Earl Ray $100,000 to assassinate Martin Luther King and David Duke remains the "face" of the KKK today.

    No, there isn't a comparison between Martin Luther King and David Duke. It would be like comparing the All-American Apple Pie to a Cow Pie and we know who the Cow Pie is because he's still alive today preaching his hate-filled message.
     
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    They were second-class citizens. Still are.
     
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    Duke received his "doctorate" from the Interregional Academy of Personnel Management, located in the Ukraine. You might want to look that organization up.
     
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    In the turbulent 1960s, others among the Black ( and often white Liberal activists ) community were advocating a mob mentality and rioting. Most notable among these were Malcolm X and Louis Farrakhan. A pair of bad actors who have created untold amounts of injury, death, destruction and misery.

    Martin Luther King, a personal hero of mine, did NOT advocate a mob mentality and rioting. Nor did he advocate greater than equal rights ( Racial Preferences ) for Blacks.

    Additionally, despite being faced with violent opposition, MLK never advocated any kind of counter violence, but rather he advocated a very Christian self-sacrifice and appeal to white common American's conscience techniques of creating social change.

    Other people, after MLKs death, have attributed to Dr. King an un-publically published belief in the current "Affirmative Action" type of racial preferences, but no where during his life did Dr. King publically state or publish such statements.

    I greatly admire Dr. King for his steadfast dedication to non-violence social change, for much the same reasons that I admire Ghandi.

    Dr. King was NOT a member of a group such as the New Black Panther party which openly advocates violence against whites.

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    To be Honest, I don't know that much about David Duke, and his history, public positions and statements. I do know that at least at one time, he was associated with, if not a member of the leadership of the KKK, which in my mind invalidates what ever else the man might say publically. There are some group memberships which taint a public figure to a degree which invalidates their being spokesman for more moderate positions and causes for life, regards of any personal repentance the individual might have accomplished.

    If David Duke has renounced the violence of the KKK, that is a good thing, a difficult accomplishment, and to his credit.

    That does not mean I will accept him as a public spokesperson for a movement advocating equal rights, and civil rights, for White Americans. There are too many other people who do not have a KKK background, for U.S. to settle for such a tainted spokesperson.



    Maybe that helps explain a few of the differences.

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    If you had made an OP about the differences / similarities between David Duke and Louis Farrakhan, you would have possibly had a valid argument.


    Dr. King's accomplishments, stature, and commitment to non-violent social change make him a historical figure that puts David Duke into an almost irrelevant and certainly tainted role by comparison.

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    The difference? The paint job.
     
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    The end. You're on 'ignore'.

    Bye.
     
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    www.martinlutherking.org

    There is nothing bad about Dr. Duke. The real bad is from the racist jews.

    You are being lied to.

    He likes culture.
    Why the hatred for Dr. Duke? Dr. Duke respects people.

    Great. Ignore people who disagree.

    Dr. David Duke wants white people to be treated the same.
     
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    MLK has been conclusively proven to have been a womanizer[therefore not a reverend],a plagiarizer[a cheater is not a "doctor",nor are any who cannot practice medicine],and a communist sympathizer[therefore not in any way patriotic]. He was in no way of a character to be held high.David Duke has been unseen or heard of in years,but at one time appeared exactly what the US needed.
     
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    LOL!! You are wasting my monitor space, for sure.

    On this forum, it works nicely. There are plenty more who know how to disagree without being completely ridiculous.

    And yes, you're on 'ignore' now.
     
  19. Libhater

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    Thanks for chiming in here with some but hardly all of the negative traits of MLK. What many respondents to this post failed to see or recognize is that MLK's actions and inflammatory speeches led to the black race riots of the sixties--not that he physically took part in them, mind you. But if MLK was this black messiah of sorts--at least the first one before obama made his presence known, then wouldn't he have set a social climate in the black neighborhoods leading to jobs, to two parent families and have reduced crime in those neighborhoods? Seems to me that he failed big time in all those aspects, and in fact made the black culture all that more belligerent and dependent on big government to solve all their real and perceived problems. Looks like obama has taken a cue from his idol MLK; now that obama has been rightfully labeled our foodstamp president and all. Rather than to get the races to love one another, MLK managed to divide the races even moreso than obama has done. I still need for a leftist here to tell me what palpable accomplishments MLK made to our American society. I heard he pushed for a colorless society. How is that plan working out then and now? And how pretell can one achieve or live in a colorless society by advocating for a multicultural/multicolor populace who all have varying needs and cultures they depend on?

    I certainly want a colorless society where each race segregates or lives among their own. That way the topic of race and or skin color would never have to be mentioned again. Just think of how nice it would be to live in perfect harmony, i.e. our own little utopias if you will, and with people we respect and enjoy their company, and are unafraid of.
     
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    Night and day. And I don't just mean in skin color. In character and beliefs as well. A better comparison might have been David Duke and Malcolm X in Malcolm's angry days. MLK didn't want to be associated with Malcolm because he saw Malcolm as too angry and violent. Which MLK didn't believe in. Or perhaps even a better comparison might be Louis Farrakhan. Farrakhan and Duke both have a rather bizarre hatred and distrust of Jews.
     
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    Sorry. You can't play that card anymore when you've got a black man in the white house. Doesn't work.

    Were second class citizens at the time? Yes. Absolutely. Are still second class citizens today? No. Not even close.
     
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    The same KKK with Democrat links? So let me get this straight, its possible for an entire party to change but not an individual?
     
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    well yes because most of the KKK democrats are now Republicans.
     
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    Who said the party changed, lol?

    Honestly, I think they both go off on their own ambitions, and just rally the percentage of voters they know will follow them, handing them things or championing things they know are easy sells...like anti-Gay, anti-Immigration, or less War, anti-Guns...

    It may be cruel to say, but I don't even think they care that much about either side except at election time. Then the flowers and the lube come out.
     
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    Dont disagree, i didnt mean the parties swapped because that clearly BS, just they changed their stance. But yes good point, that all they likely changed for the votes. Its much easier for an incividual to realise they were on the wrong path and change than a large group of people.
     

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