The Economist: For richer, for poorer

There is no other club. There's only your statist club and it owns all the property in the world.

Therefore, given that there's no choice, the "due" it collects is stealing.

 

Nope, there are scores of other clubs you can join. If you don't like the other clubs, that's your problem. Doesn't make the requirement of paying club dues "stealing".

 

Really? What are the other clubs besides your statist club?

 

https://www.countries-ofthe-world.com/all-countries.html

 

All those countries are part of your statist club, which owns all the land on Earth. So given that your statist club owns all the land on Earth, it's impossible to quit, as you claim. Therefore, the "dues" are theft.

 

That's irrelevant. You were saying that taking money from you was like stealing. It's not like stealing, it's like paying club dues. If you don't like paying the club's dues, you don't have to. Go to another club. Or find a deserted island somewhere to live on.

You want club benefits but you don't want to pay club dues. So you wrongly claim its like "stealing".

Not at all.

 

I'm not aware of any club that owns land on the Earth other than your statist club, so you suggestion to find another club is ridiculous.

And since there's no land that isn't owned by your statist club, the "dues" it collects are not voluntary, so they are theft.

 

It's not one club. There are 197 clubs. You apparently don't like the American club, so you can go to one of the other clubs. Then you don't have to pay the American club dues. I listed 196 of them.

 

So these "dues" are not voluntary, because there is no place on Earth you can go to escape them. Therefore, they are stealing.

 

Make sure you gain nothing from public good provision, then whine to us!

 

Doesn't change the fact that they're not voluntary.

 

You mean the statist club of landowners? You are starting to catch on.

So you agree that appropriating land as property is stealing others' rights to liberty. Good. About time.

 

Nope. Now run along...

 

Speaking of things that smell like stealing, I could credit that argument if "their" money represented the size of their contribution, gained by production and voluntary trade, rather than just how much they were privileged to take from others by force of government-issued and -enforced privilege.

 

Oh, I see: taking land as property is only stealing when someone did it before you.

 

Yawn.

 

Easy to call it stealing if that is the angle you WANT to believe. When there are Billions in the street starving, then they can all depend upon the good graces on the 10 people with money to give ? That is the end game, one man has it all. Without Taxation, and formal regulation the GREEDY will eat it all. They have zero humanity, zero compassion, and must be taken from. Not all people are built or raised the same. I understand that there has to be separate classes, winner and losers. we had what you could call the perfect setup from 1946 - 1984 and then all we did was take from the working class and start giving it to those that didn't spend a dime, saved only, used that very money to leverage more money from those spenders. We end up with a hobo in the street and a Carl Icahn.
Carl has 100 times more money then he should, and if redistributed it would vastly increase the wealth of other hard working, smart americans. In place of that, we have decided to go back in the opposite direction.
What stops the greedy business owner from hiring cheaper and cheaper employees ? Laws, regulation. As we strip it away, they pay less to get more in their pocket until it is all theirs. That makes for a pathetic MAN and human being. It is the OBTUSE american that said, I wil ldo it for 10 bucks vs the Union guy who makes 15 that started this BS. That same guy most likely makes 10 bucks still because he wasnt smart enough to know the system needs to work for him in this country. Not his selfishness.

 

Quite large is it, this street?

 

Yep, you involuntary benefit from public good provision. Must be terrible!