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The electoral college needs to go, its broken and only serves to disenfranchise voters

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Sackeshi, Jul 10, 2019.

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  1. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    The EC works like the founders intended, regardless of any Presidential "affiliation".
     
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    TOG 6, Jul 11, 2019
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    The E.C. is undemocratic.
     
    Kode, Jul 11, 2019
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  3. TOG 6

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    The US isn't a Democracy.
     
    TOG 6, Jul 11, 2019
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    You're not saying anything meaningful when you say that. We all agreed to elect our Presidents by this system.
     
    Socratica, Jul 11, 2019
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    Socratica Well-Known Member

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    Unaffiliated with what?
     
    Socratica, Jul 11, 2019
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  6. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Poor folks will always cluster where the most free stuff is given away.
     
    Professor Peabody, Jul 11, 2019
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  7. Sackeshi

    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    No party offiliation meaning no party primaries just everyone who is running on a ticket and then the top 2 go to run off and the winner wins still using the EC method
     
    Sackeshi, Jul 11, 2019
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    TedintheShed Banned

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    Because the tyranny of the mob is superior to all other kinds.of tyranny, amirite?
     
    TedintheShed, Jul 11, 2019
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    That then is only half of the state representation.
     
    TedintheShed, Jul 11, 2019
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  10. Sackeshi

    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    Please someone come up with something different, other than Minority rule is freedom majority rule is tyranny
     
    Sackeshi, Jul 11, 2019
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  11. Socratica

    Socratica Well-Known Member

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    And what purpose would this serve?
     
    Socratica, Jul 11, 2019
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    To give people more choices and to prevent voting for someone because party.

    It would make elections based on policy not party. Does that not sound better than the 2 party system we have now?
     
    Sackeshi, Jul 11, 2019
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    I already posted the link to Trump's tweets about it
     
    FreshAir, Jul 11, 2019
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    Then posting WHEN you make the statement should make it easy to validate your claims. Have at it.

    The truly funny thing is that Obama didn't even come close to losing the popular vote, so your claim doesn't make any sense. Please tell me you weren't duped by some fake tweets?
     
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    Sure. Minority rule is still tyranny. How about no one rules.

    See? Simple.
     
    TedintheShed, Jul 11, 2019
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    Constitutional amendment

    Section 1- No candidate for federal or state office, shall be affiliated with any political organisation.
    Section 2- All candidates for the same office shall be on the same ticket and the first Saturday in may the preliminary vote shall be held, with the two candidates who receive the most votes moving on to the general election.
    Section 3- The Candidate who receives the most vote via the system used to elect the office they are running for, shall be elected.
     
    Sackeshi, Jul 11, 2019
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    Disenfranchising the millions of people who don't live in big cities is even worse.
     
    fmw, Jul 11, 2019
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    It sounds pointless if you ask me. Nothing is obligating you to vote for someone because of political affiliation.
    Countless people voted against Trump because he wasn't perceived as a "True Republican;" same can be said for Hilary because she was Progressive enough.
    If you're too closed-minded to vote based on characteristics other than party affiliation, that's your malfunction.
     
    Socratica, Jul 11, 2019
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    What ???? He ran his campaign to win.
     
    AFM, Jul 11, 2019
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    We live in two Americas, Blue America is where everyone has access to the Fire fighters, Police, and Hospital, where we work 9-5 jobs, live in neighborhoods or apartments, having a school bus pick up our kids, and where the government provides basic services like trash pickup and water to the tap, and internet is fast and available.

    Red America, where you have one sheriff, and if you are lucky a local fire station. Where you work from Dawn till dusk, like on a farm or house separate from everyone else, where you have to drive the kids to school, where you have to fend for yourself because the government does not provide trash pickup you have to get your water from a well, internet/tv is slow or non existent.

    Blue america lives in relative luxury, Red america has to work to survive.

    Since Red America does not really need the federal government, Blue America should be allowed to control it. Make sense?
     
    Sackeshi, Jul 11, 2019
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    AFM, Jul 11, 2019
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    This ^^^ makes absolutely no sense.
     
    AFM, Jul 11, 2019
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    that was the when Trump was against the electoral college, that was what you were asking right?

    sure, now that Trump won with millions less votes then his opponent he supports affirmative action for the smaller states... as he is an Affirmative action President

    but when Trump thought a black man won with less votes, he was very upset and it shows in his twitter tantrum
     
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    Indeed it does, Red America (Uncivilized) wants to control the government via minority instead of letting Blue America (Civilized) control it.
     
    Sackeshi, Jul 11, 2019
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    1st Amendment -- political parties can run whoever they want, determined however they want, and the state has no say in the matter.
     
    TOG 6, Jul 11, 2019
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