The entire Senate is going to the White House for a briefing?

Be specific. How does Trump stop him?

 

I don't think it is happening. Trump made the invite, and it seems like it is going nowhere. Please read my earlier post today.

 

It is called literary license. Obviously, I didn't mean abuse literally.

I meant that it would be an embarrassment for 100 proud Senators to march over to the White House for a briefing when these same Senators have their own building ideal for such a purpose. It is called Capitol Hill.

Keep in mind, on a much smaller scale, that has already happened. It was called the Nunes follies. Nunes was invited to the White House to get some secret papers from some White House staffers. As things ended up, Nunes was removed from the investigation. The White House managed to embarrass itself and the House Intelligence Committee and Speaker Ryan who had originally voiced support for Nunes.

That is what Trump intended by his odd invitation. He wanted to embarrass the Senators, put them in their place, and, he thinks, he can do that because he is the President.

If that last is true, Trump made a serious mistake.

24 hours later, every Senator is completely silent on the invitation to this historical event. Why? They don't want to embarrass the President of their party, but, silently, they are simmering.

 

Call me crazy, but I can't identify a single democrat senator (except maybe Joe Manchin, who I do like quite a lot) who wants Trump to look like anything other than an embarrassment.

 

Did you mean, "Since when is the President telling the Senate to attend a briefing in the White House abusive?"

Is that what you meant? My God, the intelligence level of Trump fans.

Oh, I say since 1788 when the U.S. ratified the Constitution, establishing the three separate and equal branches of government. The President can't tell the Senate to do anything. You should have learned that by the sixth grade. But, that's alright. Trump didn't know that, either.

I am beginning to understand how Trump got elected.

 

Call me crazy, but what did your comments have to do with the post you replied to?

It must have been a good post. You didn't challenge anything in it. Well, I thought so, too. Thank you.

 

Do Trump supporters have anything intelligent to say?

 

Why have you included me in a list of Trump supporters?

 

Excellent post. These are things we should know.

 

You sounded like one with your brief posts that don't say much. Do you mean you don't support Trump?

 

Sure sounds like you are in agreement with Trump and his war-like attitude toward Kim. If you don't support Trump, you sure had me fooled.

 

He is at least 5 years away from being able to deliver a warhead. And if he gets one off, in an hour NK won't exist, and he knows it.

 

It's one of his cheesy power plays. He wants them on his turf, which tells me he wants to convince them of something.

My first guess is that he wants to sell the plan of invading NK; potentially using nukes if necessary.

 

The point is that a preemptive strike against North Korea would be catastrophic. Kim's guns are aimed at Seoul and there 20 million people living in and around Seoul. Our 28,000 troops are based close by, and they will be taken out in a heartbeat. In one week the death toll would be in the millions, and that is not taking into account a North Korean attack on Japan. That crazy fool in Pyongyang would make the U.S. pay dearly for an attack on North Korean soil. Unlike, any previous enemy we have fought in the past 27 years, North Korea has an effective air force.

For all this to happen because we think Kim may attack us in three to four years is simply ludicrous.

The Russian question is coming around again. Flynn may be indicted. The woman who knows more about Flynn's firing than anyone else, former A.G., Sally Yates, who Trump fired is set to testify.

Then there are all those failures. Trump's wall is tabled until September. His health care bill has failed, and no one is suggesting when it will reach his desk, but it will be quite a while. The Senate will be a huge hurdle. In the meantime, tax reform and infrastructure spending is on hold, and Republicans are saying it would be great if there was tax reform before the 2018 elections. Trump has failed to sign any significant legislation during the first 100 days, a new low for an American President.

Speaking of lows, his popularity rating is 42%, another record low from an American President during the first 100 days.

Trump has a history of changing the subject, as does his fans. It stands to reason, amidst all this failure, that he would rather talk about Kim, Iran, and Russia aiding the Taliban in Afghanistan, although Russia aiding Assad is off limits.

When he isn't talking about those things, he is involved in multiple photo ops lately, in between vacationing in South Florida nearly every weekend or going out on the 2020 campaign trail.

Anything but those horrible distractions at home.

But he isn't stupid enough to launch a preemptive strike at North Korea. Even if he were, Mattis wouldn't let him. American officers swear an oath. It is protect our Constitution from threats foreign and domestic.

 

Search my posts. You currently just look like a narrow-minded binary pedant.

I do not have to support any particular politician to know that Kim Jong Un is a dangerous little boy with nuclear weapons and major antisocial tendencies - in other words: a madman. You should ask President Obama why he told Mr. Trump that North Korea would be the "most urgent problem he would face" as he tossed him the nuclear football.

 

I seriously doubt it. He just wants to change the subject. That is his history. Besides, I don't think the entire Senate will show up. Maybe a handful for appearance's sake, to not embarrass the President too much.

Keep in mind, such a briefing would be historic, the whole Senate marching over to the White House for a war briefing. Yet to day, there has been little or no talk about such a historic meeting, not even from Trump.

 

Fine, you don't support Trump. Whatever.

 

you said the senators didn't want Trump to be embarrassed

 

Thought so... Run along now.

 

You can type as much hyperbole as you want, but it doesn't change the fact that there's absolutely nothing unconstitutional or wrong with the president calling senators to a meeting in the White House. It's like a twenty minute walk from Congress to the White House. Were they dragged out of their offices kicking and screaming by the secret service or something?


"the entire United States Senate is invited to the White House for a briefing"
This is what you typed in the OP, and you actually think this is an abuse of power?

 

While we rely on news for our impressions, virtually all agree that this dictator sets himself far above his own people and lives is a world of delusion where he is the grand master that all his people owe their lives to- even though they are desperate and miserable. The reason why such people kill is the key- not just the fact that they kill someone. The motives that drive him define him.

IF he were truly defending his nation, he would also be supporting his people and working for their benefit, not using them for his own ego feeding process while totally denying the needs of the people or their role in their nation. That also defines him.

IF he were defending his nation against aggression, he would not be the aggressor, the provocateur. The record of situations where he has created crisis or threats in order to extort some kind of concession is a long list- it is his move of choice in international relationships. That also defines him.

When you threaten to incinerate others if they don't give you what you want- you ARE dictating to other nations. When you respond to activities that are normal and have no effect on you with such hostility as this dictator does, he is trying to control other nations with fear- he is a street bully that has built his own gang and thinks you get respect by threatening to kill those who don't respect you. Such people may not be mad in the technical sense, but they are extremely dangerous to others who would pose no threat to them if they were not making it necessary.

This is not a nation ruled or populated by religious lunatics, ISIS style. These are the same people who live south of them on the same ground- in South Korea. The difference in these two nations is totally one of ideology that is dynastic; passed along in a family of dictators obsessed with total control and living in fear expressed in the need for that control. Other than that- the north could be just as healthy as the south. It is the disease of this dictatorship rather than the nature of the people who make it what it is. That is why they kill, why they have concentration camps for those who dare to disagree or criticize, why they threaten the world because of their paranoia.

They were not forced into this situation- the leadership, not the people, chose it, created it and continue it. And- they are responsible for it, regardless of their own distorted logic. The chance for North Korea to be as prosperous as it's southern neighbor, to be a citizen of the world rather than an outlaw has always been available. They chose not to.

 

No one is claiming that Kim is not a scum bucket. Your claim that Kim has used threats to "get what he wants" (other than not to be attacked) is unsupported. Kim threatening to attack if attacked does not a "mad man" make.

That the US does not have a significant population of "religious lunatics" (and then using the most extreme example you could think of ... ISIS) .. in relation to the question of the relative danger of a religious lunatic in the white house vs Kim is abject nonsense.

Kim is not ISIS. And the US does have a significant population of "religious lunatics" , many of them in high places and some who attended this "Kill the Gays" conference during the last election cycle.

 

No one said it was unconstitutional. Whether it was wrong is another matter. For the President to ask the entire Senate to come to the White House is at best inappropriate. If the Republican Senate complies with the invite of a Republican President, it is merely a political stunt, a photo op.

 

You are really grasping at straws for things to criticize President Trump over.

 

The fact that the North Korean regime has been allowed to exist for so long is a stain on the reputation of all humanity.

President Clinton should've gone to war and destroyed the North Korean regime in 1994 like he almost did. Probably would've had not that idiot Jimmy Carter intervened.