The Epic Failure of the Government Gas Can

And read the OP, this started in California, to be expected, over FUMES and in fact because of increased spillage may have, probably did make it worse. Those unintended consequences.

 

A quick Google search reveals the gas can caps were deemed necessary (by the US CPSB) to prevent fire and inhalation accidents with children as well as for environmental issues related to spillage. IOW, for reasons of public health and safety. Sorry for any inconvenience it caused.

 

The scariest words of all: "We're from the government, and we're here to help."

 

Add another turd to the list Reagan left behind.

 

A funny, and true, story about the origin of standards:

The width of railroad tracks, roads and lanes, and even cars are based on a very old standard that originated in ancient Rome, from the overal width of a chariot pulled by two horses.

In other words, many of todays standards are derived from a horse's ass.

 

Very snarky. Please stop that.

The OP is about not being able to use his existing, tried and true equipment to transfer gasoline from gas can to vehicle due to the new gas caps that don't accommodate his equipment. Those gas caps are not designed by the government, they are designed by the manufacturers. That was what I stated in my post.

If you have information that the government has mandated those specific changes to gas caps, please share, but leave out the snark.

 

Me, Me, Me, is the extent of my concern. You are free to worry about your own concerns, but if your concern encroaches on me, me, me, you will run the risk of being told "Mind your own business".

I suggest progressives stop trying to re-create society into some sort of regimented order and allow people within society to choose their own order. For me that would be one without expensive and sloppy gas can spouts .

 

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It took one quick search. The whole trend began in (wait for it) California. Regulations began in 2000, with the idea of preventing spillage. The notion spread and was picked up by the EPA, which is always looking for new and innovative ways to spread as much human misery as possible.

An ominous regulatory announcement from the EPA came in 2007: “Starting with containers manufactured in 2009… it is expected that the new cans will be built with a simple and inexpensive permeation barrier and new spouts that close automatically.”"
https://fee.org/articles/how-government-wrecked-the-gas-can/

AND that they cause more spillage negating any asserted effects from fumes leaking, the unintended consequences.

"You'll start each project spilling more gas than you get into the mower, motorcycle, car or whichever. In other words, you will create more vapor emissions than you ever would have otherwise." Read the OP and the link.

 

Best plastic gas can on the market:


Best metal gas can on the market:

 

The text in your own posts states that "... it is expected that ..." -- nothing there about a law, regulation, or mandate of any sort.

 

Government seldom does anything that makes any sense.

 

Sorry no they aren't.

 

The design has to be approved by the government.

 

Don't forget the "smart" idea of adding certain ingredients that makes the gas go bad. Talk about waste. Granted I don't know if that was the government's idea or big oils. Either way it's just as screwy.

 

It's what they do best.
A number of years back the environmentalists and epa got hot on the potential of underground gas storage tanks to leak. Some whiz kid (kind of like AOC, doesn't consider the collateral damages) decided we needed to dig up and replace any tanks that were not double walled. Cost- roughly- 100 grand.

Small town where I grew up, near very busy recreational lake. Lake had two marinas with fuel, small town 3 gas stations. None could afford the 100K. All had to stop selling fuel. Boaters stopped coming. Marinas and restaurants closed. Town's traffic dried up. People had to drive 20 miles for gas. Town dried up, has lost it's schools and half it's population, more than half it's businesses- because small operations and alternative methods in insure safety were never considered. They never look back either.

 

Of course, you have to also mention what would have happened if the gas tanks had leaked. Most likely, the company would go out of business, after the gains had already been privatized, and the tax payer would be stuck with cleaning up the mess. I knew someone who bought a house that had an in-ground oil tank that had leaked. It almost bankrupted them. The other option would be to just say what the heck about the pollution and leave it in the ground, for someone else to deal with the mess. The latter seems to be the conservative position. Me, I tell my children to clean up after themselves.

 

Rather than just arbitrarily digging up every tank that is not double walled, wouldn't it make more sense to develop some kind of inspection? Surely, if we can put a rover on Mars, shouldn't we be able to devise an inspection of a tank ten feet under ground.

 

The right thing to do would have been to recognize the destruction the requirement would have had, and set up a qualified alternative for the small operators- such as having in-ground monitors installed beside every tank, so any leaks could be promptly dealt with. There are always alternatives- and in this case, the loss as a result of failing to consider the options was actually quite large. You can bet that this was not a unique situation either, and that a great many small businesses and communities all over the country were wiped out in some similar fashion.

I've seen the EPA do some really stupid things in the clean-up of heavy-metals pollution; actually causing a lot more of it- as well as damaging places that had long since been converted successfully to recreational use and posed no risk, such as filling in lakes that were great fishing sites to meet the protocol concept of returning mined land to the appearance it had before.

Anything done with no real consideration for the effects your "solution" will have is short sighted, often making the cure worse than the disease. The environmentalist do that all the time, and accept no blame for the consequences. Right now, they are saving a minnow in California by diverting water, and in the process- wiping out the greatest vegetable farm in America, the Imperial Valley. Not just speculation, there's confirmed evidence of ground collapse as well as diminishing crops and increasing costs.

 

Why do you keep trying to limit it to just "automobiles" it applies to GAS CANS which are used to fill any number of gasoline power machines. No these cans were NOT designed by automobile manufacturers.

This is where I put gas into my generator.



Notice the shoulder and how it is rounded. An old style 5 gallon gas can and no problem even a 2 am with a full hurricane blowing out side the gas pours swiftly and smoothly even for a senior citizen like myself trying to lift and hold it steady. The new cans can't grab the lip and you try to push down to force it open you can't push far enough and it slips and with the gurgling as it pours gas can spill all over it. When the engine is hot that presents a danger and any "low fumes" is negated with LOTS of fumes.

 

Perhaps you should use an impartial source rather than a libertarian think tank.