The Ethics of Abortion

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  1. mswan

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    Women also have the choice to be abstinent. They, like men, should be suffer the consequences of bad decision. The one who should not suffer is the new life they created.
     
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    This is a denial of what it means to be a human.

    And, the proclamation that an unplanned pregnancy means there was a "bad decision" is nonsense.
     
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    And what impact is that?
     
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    What it means to be human? I think you have us confused with animals.
     
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    Nope.

    But, higher order animals have different sexual orientations, too.

    Biology doesn't limit that to humans.
     
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    Look, it is certain that the embryo has no mind. With all rational policy decisions, you go with the best info available, not some kind of magical supernatural BS thinking. It is not a person yet. Period.

    Do other animals have minds? Yes. Animal rights are a legit topic for debate, much more legit than whether an embryo has rights. A fish feels and thinks more than an embryo.

    Completely insane. The heart is a ****ing pump. If you replace it with an artificial pump, the person is the same. Thus the heart is just a tool. The brain is a different story. Personhood lies in the mind
     
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    No, you do, you think women should be controlled like animals.

    To be human means having sex ( NORMAL humans have sex), and making mistakes and having the freedom to fix those mistakes , ...being human means having bodily autonomy and rights without interference from those who wish to destroy freedom and rights.
     
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    Humans are animals. This is 5th grade science.
     
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    (original)late Banned

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    Just love it when religion sticks it's nose out from under the bedsheets...
     
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    Too bad it sticks it's nose under other people's bedsheets....it's favorite hobby.
     
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    Yes it's stupid to charge with murder for loss of fetus, unless of course it's after consciousness/viability. But you know, charges these days aren't usually about being accurate, but more about the sentence. Like a plea bargain could make a real murder into manslaughter. Perhaps tacking on a murder charge for assaulting a pregnant woman is just trying to throw the book at them, after dousing it in napalm and lighting it.
     
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    They created that murder charge in a backdoor attempt to give the legal status of a person to a fetus.

    It's juvenile and cynical, but that's the Right for ya..
     
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    The culture of pro-abortion activists is a culture of death, and a society that celebrates that is a sick, immoral society.
     
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    :yawn::sleepy: OK....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
     
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    Like Handmaids Tale, got it..:applause:

    Stripping rights from women will make a sick, immoral society sicker, and not by a small margin.
     
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    Yes, in your mind the right for women to kill their babies is fundamental to a healthy society. Got it.
     
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    A fetus is not a baby.

    Lying doesn't help.
     
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    Misogynists always blame women for every evil in the world....and always ignore what evil men have done.....including the evil of taking away people's rights.
     
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    Yeah, a fetus isn't a baby....if that let's you live with yourself.
     
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    No, I don't fear science and science says it's a fetus and the law says it isn't a person. :)

    And I live with myself just fine....but wonder about those who hate women so much they want to destroy their right to their own body.....the hate must eat away at them :) :)
     
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    How convenient for you. Science changes it's mind all the time, and with pressure from our perverted society science will eventually say it's not a person until it reaches puberty. I'm sure the pro-abortion crowd will celebrate that decision.

    This isn't a legal issue it's a moral issue, and abortion is immoral.
     
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    Suggesting that being pro choice is a "culture" is just plain silly.

    And, what makes you think YOUR idea of morality is so right that it must be imposed by law on all women in all circumstances?

    How could anyone POSSIBLY be that right?
     
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    Hilariously silly comment...




    LOL, says you.....but YOU do not rule the world :)

    Science does not "change it's mind"....it operates on facts....maybe you should try that ???
     
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    I never suggest my opinion should be enforced by law. I said this is a moral issue not a legal issue.
     
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    Your comments are exactly those of the antiabortion movement that is focused on imposing their views on all women by the force of law.

    In fact, the use of legal enforcement is the focus. Other means of reducing the number of abortions is clearly of NO interest.

    And, you certainly have not suggested that your arguments should NOT result in laws against women.
     
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